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Fictional Flags

Bad capitalization, I propose the following renames:

Rename Category:Canada related Fictional Flags to Category:Variations on flags of Canada (37 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.

Rename Category:European Union related Fictional Flags (talk) to Category:Variations on flags of the European Union (0 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.

Rename Category:United Kingdom related Fictional Flags to Category:Variations on flags of the United Kingdom (114 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.

Rename Category:United States related Fictional Flags to Category:Variations on flags of the United States (63 entries moved, 0 to go) Warning: Please add a reason. Warning: Username of requester missing (user parameter). For transparency and to prevent abuse, please add your username.

The names are still not great, so if someone has a better proposal, go ahead. --rimshot^talk 13:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not all of the flags in these categories are "fictional" in the sense of being derived from works of fiction, but I can't think of better phrasing right now... AnonMoos 14:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What happens we someone says a certain flag is "fictional" and someone else says it's not? Usually, it's over slight color variations. Maybe a more neutral name like "flag variations". - Rocket000 16:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something like Variations on flags of the European Union? --rimshot^talk 17:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, or "Modified flags of..." but I like "variations" the best. - Rocket000 17:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the proposal accordingly. --rimshot^talk 18:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I want to note that the reason the flags are called "Fictional" is because they are not real in the sense of "real world", and not because of the way they were drawn, but because of the theme that stands behind the drawing and the idea it conveys. --Oren neu dag 23:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that, that's why I'm still not quite happy with the solution. How about "Flags derived from flags of ...."? --rimshot^talk 11:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I actually thought about that one too. What about just "Derivatives of flags of ..."? Leaving out the "flag" part makes sense if you consider things like Image:AmericaGermany.PNG, and Image:Flag Israel template.gif which really aren't suppose to be "flags". The only problem is technically every flag we have is a derivative unless it's not based on any other flag (i.e. we don't have any originals). I'm sure people will understand what we mean, but still I wish I could think of a better name. - Rocket000 13:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question In that case, what about "Flag Derivatives of ..."? which leaves out any other derivative which isn't in a form of a flag (e.g. not in the common form of a flag - rectangle, triangle and etc) --Oren neu dag 14:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Flag Israel template.gif would not be included in an "Israel related Fictional Flags" category (if there were such a category), so if it would be included in your corresponding renamed category, then that might be seen as a problem... AnonMoos 14:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not, but it's not a flag of Israel either. I'm not sure where things like that or what Rimshot point out should go. Personally, I think they should just stay in the main categories. I would say that anything that's not a flag derivative should stay in the main flag cat. - Rocket000 05:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that should be accounted for by the formulation "Flags derived from flags of ....". But should something like this be allowed? It's not a fictional flag, so I guess no. --rimshot^talk 16:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, on second thought, that's a little clearer. Just "derivatives" can mean so many things that I don't think we're looking to include. - Rocket000 05:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support I Support Rimshot's proposal. --Oren neu dag 10:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In other words (to clarify my past remark), all four of these categories were intended to be subcategories of Category:Special or fictional flags, so whatever they are renamed to should also be a valid subcategory of Category:Special or fictional flags -- AnonMoos 07:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the "Flags of Romania" category has as subcategories "Photographs of flags of Romania" and "Paintings of flags of Romania"... AnonMoos 19:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moved accordingly. The former cats have been left as redirects. --O (谈 • висчвын) 03:48, 10 July 2008 (GMT)

By the way, since this proposal was first made, the following additional categories have been created:

Category:Latin American related Fictional Flags

Category:Malaysia related Fictional Flags

Category:Outer Space related Fictional Flags

-- AnonMoos (talk) 14:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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