Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/06/Category:Tammela
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to DAB, like in enwiki en:Tammela. Hence, current category renamed to Category:Tammela (Kanta-Häme) or Category:Tammela, Kanta-Häme Estopedist1 (talk) 06:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Support even though the Finnish Wikipedia doesn't disambiguate the English Wikipedia does which is more neutral in terms of Finland v Estonia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Tammela, Finland (Wikidata:Q1005049) is an independent municipality while Tammela, Tampere, Finland (Wikidata:Q18658632) is a city district in the City (municipality) of Tampere and Tammela, Hiiumaa Parish, Estonia (Wikidata:Q1659892) a village in the Municipality of Hiiumaa Parish, Estonia. In addition, "Tavastia Proper is used in Commons instead of "Kanta-Häme". ––Apalsola t • c 17:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- And to be exact, Tammela, Tampere, Finland (Wikidata:Q18658632) is not even a city district but an area consisting of two city districts: Tammela A (Wikidata:Q42901268) and Tammela B (Wikidata:Q42901269). ––Apalsola t • c 18:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: what this opposing means? For the disambiguation like in enwiki or for the renaming to Category:Tammela (Tavastia Proper)? There should be convincing argument(s) if we deviate from enwiki solutions Estopedist1 (talk) 15:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: I oppose the move from the current name altogether. I.e. the category name should remain Category:Tammela. As I stated in my first comment, Tammela is an independent municipality, while Tammela, Tampere, Finland and Tammela, Hiiumaa Parish, Estonia are only subdivisions within a municipality. I.e. Tammela, Finland is higher-level administrative region and thus it should have preference.
- Where is it stated that Commons should follow English Wikipedia naming? I did not find any mention in COM:LP nor COM:CAT. Commons is an independent, multilingual project. The English Wikipedia is not superior to Commons or other Wikipedias.
- With the mention to Tavastia Proper/Kanta-Häme I only meant that if we decided to move the category, then "Tavastia Proper" should be used because it is used in other categories in Commons. Whether it should be replaced with Kanta-Häme is a topic of separate discussion that should apply to all related categories at once. ––Apalsola t • c 23:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: what this opposing means? For the disambiguation like in enwiki or for the renaming to Category:Tammela (Tavastia Proper)? There should be convincing argument(s) if we deviate from enwiki solutions Estopedist1 (talk) 15:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- And to be exact, Tammela, Tampere, Finland (Wikidata:Q18658632) is not even a city district but an area consisting of two city districts: Tammela A (Wikidata:Q42901268) and Tammela B (Wikidata:Q42901269). ––Apalsola t • c 18:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)