Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/07/Category:Mulmholk
Rename to Category:Insect hotels in Sweden.
Per COM:LP, category names should be in English, and "Mulmholk" is not an English word. COM:LP requires English names for categories in most situations, and as this is a rare but basic concept, I don't think that it falls into one of the exceptions.
I found this and didn't know what it was, especially as sv:Mulmholk has no babel links. People at the sv: help desk, sv:Wikipedia:Wikipediafrågor, explained that it's fundamentally a kind of en:insect hotel, one designed to support insects that live in rotten wood. Now, I see no reason that such a concept couldn't exist outside Sweden, so it probably shouldn't have a Swedish name, but unfortunately the creator just wasn't aware of how we try to use English for category names. (On the same day he created Category:Entomologi and Category:Judarskogens mulmholkar för insekter, which overlaps with Category:Entomology and which could be something like "Insect hotels in sv:Judarskogens", respectively.) So...since these are a kind of insect hotel, since they were unintentionally created out of line with our category-naming standard, and since "Hotels for insects relying on rotten wood" (or something comparable) would be a really clunky name for a category with so few contents, I think it would be best to merge this into the insect hotels category tree. And since all of these insect hotels are in Sweden, let's just make it a country-specific subcategory. (Nyttend (talk) 23:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- So it is a subclass of en:insect hotel. I ask there to see if somebody knows a better denomination. I have looked at mulm, it refers to something that has mouldered, rottened or crumbled. Per W (talk) 07:03, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Or Rename to Category:Insect hotels in Sweden, Norway and Germany de:Mulm or Mulm hotel Janee (talk) 09:16, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Janee, why "Sweden, Norway and Germany"? I can't remember seeing any multi-country categories for ordinary concepts (it's not "Coasts of Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana"), except regions, and Sweden, Norway, and Germany aren't part of any regions that don't also include a number of other countries. Finally, if we agree with changing the scope to fit the contents, Norway and Germany don't fit; all the contents (both the subcategory and the images not in the subcategory) are all from a single nature reserve in Sweden. Nyttend (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Since they are common in sweden, germany and norway and all of these countries use the word Mulm (Mulmhöhlen, Mulmholk, Mulmhotell). The word Mulm also learns to occur in english where it means death.
- Janee, why "Sweden, Norway and Germany"? I can't remember seeing any multi-country categories for ordinary concepts (it's not "Coasts of Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana"), except regions, and Sweden, Norway, and Germany aren't part of any regions that don't also include a number of other countries. Finally, if we agree with changing the scope to fit the contents, Norway and Germany don't fit; all the contents (both the subcategory and the images not in the subcategory) are all from a single nature reserve in Sweden. Nyttend (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Or Rename to Category:Insect hotels in Sweden, Norway and Germany de:Mulm or Mulm hotel Janee (talk) 09:16, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Done: deleted as empty. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 00:48, 9 November 2021 (UTC)