Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/06/Category:PNG created with Scribus

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Category:PNG created with Scribus

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Possibly a better name for this category would be "PDF created with Scribus" or "Raster created with Scribus" as it does not only contain PNGs, it also contains PDFs and GIFs as mentioned in the description of the category. Currently on;y PDFs and JPGs are there, majority of the files are PDFs. The other formats should be moved to their own category "JPEG created with Scribus" too. AbdealiJK (talk) 08:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think a category containing 29 files only shouldn't be split. The difference SVG/Non-SVG files seems to be sufficient. So that might be Category:Non-SVG created with Scribus or Category:Raster graphics created with Scribus or just move the files one level up to Category:Created with Scribus leaving Category:SVG created with Scribus its one and only subcat. --Achim (talk) 11:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that. Moving the files one directory up and having only one subcategory - Category:SVG created with Scribus seems more appropriate. AbdealiJK (talk) 11:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know about that problem. It results from the tagging of SVG files by the tools used for drawing them; with some tools like Scribus also non-SVG files can be drawn.
The category Created with Scribus contains therefore the SVG subcategory, and the other one. I discussed with other users what would be a useful name; but none of us had an idea. It seemed acceptable to put all non-SVGs into one category, and to name it "PNG created with..." knowing that there are all the files with file extensions different from SVG - including GIF, JPG, PDF etc.
Of course it is possible to care for a correct categorizing! I can do that if the commons community decides that it is in need.
In the example for Scribus the category tree may look like
  • GIF created with Scribus
  • JPG created with Scribus
  • PDF created with Scribus
  • PNG created with Scribus
  • TIF created with Scribus
It is not any problem to alter and to expand the templates, but the result will be many categories containing just one or very few files; Scribus has 2 JPG files.
I agree that the name "PNG created ..." is not satisfying, and I would like a better name ("Raster images created ..." was in discussion and did not satisfy either), but IMHO a too fine category diffusion of all the PNG created with won't help. PNG created with ArcMap comprises 4 file types!
In the meantime came up the idea of no-subcategory. It's a nice idea but does not allow the super category PNG created with, an essential grouping possibilty. sarang♥사랑 12:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, your last sentence sounds a bit like a joke. About half of the content of Category:PNG created with MATLAB (240 files) are not PNGs, so why should we consider just PNG specially?. --Achim (talk) 13:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Of course the super categories will get the correct names, e.g. Raster graphics created with, with possible sub categories as PDF created with and others. In the mentioned case of PNG created with MATLAB there are AFAIK also GIF and JPG. I am just seeing that lots of SVG are too in that category, because templates are used in a wrong way. I repair that. sarang♥사랑 17:26, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Danke dir für die Aufräumarbeit! --Achim (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Now 158 files are therein, about 103 PNG, 46 GIF and 9 JPG. Until somebody misuses again templates and adds SVG...
Do you have any suggestions about category renaming/diffusing? sarang♥사랑 07:20, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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