Category talk:Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada

delete all pictures in this category

Someone wants to delete all pictures in this category. Please see Commons:Help_desk#Deleting_Entries. (Archived here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Help_desk&oldid=44599428#Deleting_Entries ) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 17:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Bezüglich der Anfrage der Entfernung der, wollte ich erwähnen, daß ich die Photos vorher an das Institut geschickt habe mit der Bitte um Erlaubnis diese auf Commons hochzuladen. Diese schriftliche Erlaubnis erhielt ich am 21.05.2010 um 09:10 EST, und habe diese immer noch gespeichert. Diese schriftliche Erlaubnis des Institutes habe ich am 28.05.2010 20:16 EST weitergeleitet an permissions@wikimedia.org. Jetzt, nach Monate alter Veröffentlichung, will ein neuer Benutzer die Fotos entfernen und er basiert es darauf, daß ich ihm meine schriftliche Erlaubnis dazu gegeben haben solle. Dies stimmt nicht. Ich habe niemandem die Erlaubnis dazu gegeben. Mit freundlichem Gruß --Achim Hering (talk) 04:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Entries (copied here from Help desk)

Hello there,

Is it possible for the author to delete an entry he/she created on Wikimedia Commons? If so, can you describe the process of removing the entry from Commons?

Thank you!

Kevin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinzhjwu (talk • contribs) 2010-09-20T20:34:42 (UTC)

Hi Kevin, do you mean that you want to delete one of your uploaded duplicate images (File:Ulc fire test observation room.JPG, File:Ulc exterior test frame storage.JPG)? Or do you want do delete them both because you haven't taken these photographs by yourself? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 21:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

In any case, I tagged File:Ulc exterior test frame storage.JPG with {{Duplicate}}. Thus it should get deleted soon.  Docu  at 23:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Saibo, we would like to delete the entire category:Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada. We have spoken to the author who created this category and have got his consent. But we are not sure what's required to make this happen. Please advise. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinzhjwu (talk • contribs) 2010-09-21T01:50:14 (UTC)

(linked the category in your post) Please see Commons:Categories for discussion. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 12:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Saibo, I explored the link you provided but was not able to find particular instructions on deleting a category. The photos posted under that category are our company premises and we are quite concerned. We, together with the author, are working to take those photos offline but none of us is proficient to do so. Will highly appreciate if you can provide us with clear instructions. Or can you delete this category on our behalf? Thanks.

Deleting a category has nothing to do with the images in that category. They'll probably have to go through a deletion review before they can be deleted, and that should probably be done as a group.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so you want to delete all the images in this category? We do not delete so many pictures just because somebody is coming here and advising us to do so. You need to give valid reasons for this (maybe e.g. copyright violation by the uploader). Please do so in a deletion request: instructions are here COM:DELETE. If too complicated just explain here. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 17:21, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

As the author, I state that I have provided no permission to remove any pictures that I have uploaded. In fact, after I took the photos of this laboratory, during which I was accompanied by one of its engineers who was aware of my camera, I sent them to the nonprofit organisation at issue and requested written permission to upload these pictures to Wikimedia Commons. I received this written permission from the organisation on 21. May 2010 at 09:10 EST. I have kept a copy of the e-mail. On 28. May 2010 20:16 EST, I forwarded this written permission to permissions@wikimedia.org. I have kept a copy of this e-mail as well. Now, months after PD publication, a new user referring to himself in the plural, is seeking the removal of these pictures by stating that I have provided permission to him to do so. I am a longtime Commons user and I know that this is not how Wikimedia Commons works. It is absurd to suggest I would give a new user permission to remove my work. If I wanted this work removed, I would turn to an administrator for advice and I would provide a reasonable rationale for removing the pictures. The pictures basically show the equipment used at a non-profit organisation in Canada to test fire-resistive products to see whether or not those items meet the requirements of the National Building Code of Canada. The equipment is not exactly new either, or even unique. This fact is abundantly self-evident when looking at Commons pictures about iBMB/Technische Universität Braunschweig as well as the Category: National Research Council of Canada. It's the same sort of gear and has been for decades. The laboratory in question has been and continues to be seen by many people, as countless companies go there to get their products certified. Lots of pictures exist of all manner of test assemblies passing tests at the lab and those go into PD literature from many manufacturers in the realm. Here are some PD examples. I have run many projects through the lab as a client and have never been told not to take pictures or to avoid publishing same in my literature. Anyone can look up in published standards such as those issued by ASTM, ULI and ULC, intricate details and drawings of what that equipment is about and how it must be run. In fact, many organisations who engage in such testing, publish pictures of their equipment online on their own websites. Examples: TU Braunschweig, SINTEF. None of those places tell you not to take pictures with the exception of current, proprietary test samples, which are not at issue here. What's here is standardised equipment. With written permission that I have submitted to Commons, I uploaded my pictures of the equipment and the parts of the laboratory that this equipment is located in. I fail to see the rationale for wanting to remove what should actually be regarded as evidence of engineering excellence, due diligence and conformance with building codes in Canada. Sincerely, --Achim Hering (talk) 06:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

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continued discussion

Hello Achim, thank you for your statement. However, currently, there is no reason to delete anything. You took the photos and (I had a quick look) you photographed nothing which seems to exceed the threshold of originality to be copyrighted. Furthermore, if you even have written permission (what was permitted exactly?) there is no problem - as you noticed, too. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 12:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I was told there was no problem with the use of the images on Commons. Best regards, --Achim Hering (talk) 23:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)