Category talk:Television channels from Armenia
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Like in other mother cats, we strangely have "Channels of, in, or from" in national subcats. We must find a way to prevent this disorder. E4024 (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- The only country with plural cats is, AFAICS, New Zealand. There is Category:Television channels from New Zealand and Category:Television channels of New Zealand; for which I see no reason not to be merged. --E4024 (talk) 08:08, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Merged.--Allforrous (talk) 10:46, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think of vs from matters too much, but "in" doesn't work well, since a country might have access to a television station from a neighbouring country - which makes a less useful categorization. I'm going to suggest moving everything to "of X" - Themightyquill (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Categories like Category:Television channels of New Zealand might seem fine on the face of it, but then it gets kind of crappy when you have categories like "Logos of television channels of New Zealand." Since "X of Y of Z" just doesn't sound right. Especially compared to "X of Y in Z." It shouldn't matter that a television station can be picked outside of the main or intended audiences viewing area either. Especially these days when everything is global and there's online TV streaming. Or nothing should be categorized as being "in" anywhere. If there's a French TV channel, in the French language, where 99% of its audience is in France, and most of the rest world doesn't know about or watch it then there should zero issue with saying its in France. As its factually correct and the naming of categorizes shouldn't have to account for every niche audience or edge use case. Its not like things can't be put in multiple country categorize either. Adamant1 (talk) 06:58, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Adamant1: Does that also apply to cities? Category:Television channels in Auckland for instance? I don't think the "x of y of z" is such a problem, and "x of y from z" is definitely not a problem. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see why it wouldn't also apply to cities. On "x of y from z", I don't have a problem with that. Except from my experience in general there are way more categories that are of the "X of Y in Z" or "x of y of z" variety and it's usually better to go with the more established way of naming things. Also, to me "from" makes more sense for organic, none stationary things like people or animals. You don't general say a building or company is from somewhere though. Which is ultimately what a TV station is. Since it implies the is somewhere else then where it originates at the time or has a location based affiliation, like a nationality. You don't really say they are "of" somewhere either though. "Walmart is a company based of America" or "Carnegie Hall is of New York" just sounds ass-nine. It works fine for groups of people or things that took place during certain time period though. Like "So and so of the Waldon family" or "The war of 1812."
- To me, generally the naming of categories should follow proper, "normal" English usage. No one says "What television channels are there of this town" when they visit a place. If something sounds clunky or incorrect in a normal sentence there's zero reason it wouldn't also sound the same as a category name. Let alone should the normal rules of grammar be tossed out just "because categories." --Adamant1 (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- If you're okay with "from" I think we have consensus. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'd prefer "in." It makes the most sense, follows convention, and I haven't heard a counter argument as to why it doesn't. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
change to "from" Themightyquill (talk) 07:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)