Category talk:Education in the Netherlands by city

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Category:Education in the Netherlands by city

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Should be merged with Category:Education in the Netherlands by municipality as "by municipality" and "by city and town" usually mean the same thing. Amersfoort‎ is a city and so is Amsterdam, but each is in a different category. Also the Wikidata entries need to be merged WhisperToMe (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. All cities in the category are also municipalitiés. --Havang(nl) (talk) 17:27, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Agree --Stunteltje (talk) 19:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Havang(nl): When you say they are both cities and municipalities, does that mean the same entity is considered both a city and a municipality under Netherlands law, or there are two distinct entities or levels which share the same name (and maybe territory) but have their own identity? Josh (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Populated places in the Netherlands is the catch-all for cities, municipalities, etc. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:46, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Netherlands also has Category:Categories of the Netherlands by location‎ which might work as a format as well. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:47, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there should be only one category. However, "by city" could be a better choice due to the Universality principle. ––Apalsola t • c 17:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not so sure that principal overrides the importance of clarity. "City" and "municipality" have specific legal meanings in the Netherlands and so our use of them within Netherlands topics should reflect that. Josh (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I checked, all the items in the category are names of cities as well as names of municipalities, therefore it should be merged. It is possible however, to adapt the subcategories : Education in Amsterdam (city), subcategory of Education in Amsterdam (municipality) , subcategory of Education in the Netherlands by municipality. This latter category is needed, if f.i,.municipalities like Category:Oss (municipality englobing about 22 villages/cities and the city of Oss) come into the category tree. It is the municipality, not the city which has gouvernmental responsibility for education. --Havang(nl) (talk) 07:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Education in Sittard-Geleen : Sittard-Geleen is the name of a municipality, not of a city. I opt for Category:Education in the Netherlands by municipality --Havang(nl) (talk) 09:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Joshbaumgartner: OK, in that case it is probably better to use the term municipality when referring to municipalities. ––Apalsola t • c 09:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Havang(nl) and Apalsola: Thanks for the clarification, and I agree, based on both statements, so let's merge both into Category:Education in the Netherlands by municipality for now since education is really a municipality issue it seems. Josh (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Great to see progress! Note that the Wikidata Q codes to be merged are 8407505 and 56751655 WhisperToMe (talk) 15:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@WhisperToMe, Havang(nl), Apalsola, and Joshbaumgartner: Is that consensus then? Are you ready to merge? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:35, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, merge--Havang(nl) (talk) 10:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please merge! WhisperToMe (talk) 11:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No objections. ––Apalsola t • c 13:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Havang(nl), WhisperToMe, Apalsola, and Themightyquill: Closed (consensus reached; merge Category:Education in the Netherlands by city into Category:Education in the Netherlands by municipality) Josh (talk) 18:22, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe: post script note: I cleaned up the links in the Wikidata items, but they also link to other projects so can't simply be merged. That will need discussion and action on other projects, so is outside of the scope of this CfD. Thanks for being mindful of inter-project impacts! Josh (talk) 18:29, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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