Category talk:Ancient Slavic religion

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Main category article: Slavic religion (Slav paganism). --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 13:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I created this category for that you have called Slavic paganism - beliefs held up to 13th century, not for latter syncretism nor for modern religion(s). --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 11:36, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's clear. But then it's better to match the titles of the corresponding Wikipedia articles and the parent categories on Wikimedia Commons. I propose to make the main Category:Slavic paganism and move everything there. Otherwise, other participants, like me, may not understand the meaning of the name, which can lead to confusion. Slavic paganism is a well-established unambiguous name. What do you think? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:50, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer to set some standard in the matter of categories of those European folk religions that had fallen and are revived in modern days. The problem with "paganism" is that it isn't neutral word and it's usage is inheritance of Christian theology roots of Religious Studies. We shouldn't use word from terminology of one religion to describe other, independent religions. Look: we haven't category like Category:Greek paganism or Category:Roman paganism, but instead of there are Category:Ancient Greek religion and Category:Ancient Roman religion – and it's fully understable for users. Terms like "Ancient Slavic religion" or "Old Slavic religion" are also established in reliable sources (example 1, example 2, example 3, exaple 4) so therefore I think we should choose more ethical option than slur from Antiquity. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 16:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with you that the word "paganism" now has a slightly pejorative meaning. But, to my surprise, the dictionary, published in the late 20th - early 21st centuries under the auspices of the Russian Academy of Sciences "Slavic Antiquities" (5 volumes), and written by the best Russian and foreign experts in ethnography and the history of the Slavic peoples, called the corresponding article "Slavic paganism". This is a really great publication, not related to politics and the church. Since then, I do not consider this name offensive. And the original meaning of the word in Latin and Russian does not carry a negative load. And most importantly, most people do not take information from Wikimedia Commons, but from Wikipedia. Most of the project participants are guided by where to include this or that image by the name of the categories. I did not immediately understand, so others may not understand and get confused. And this will harm the whole project and this topic. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 17:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't suprised me - as I told before, religious studies evolved mostly from Christian theology, so that terminology was kept as "neutral", but still it's Europocentric (Christianocentric). But I understand that question with superior position of Wikipedia, so I can agree with you with one reservation - this discussion should be continued on en.Wiki. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 11:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind the discussion in the English Wiki. But Wikimedia Commons is a stand-alone project that may take into account Wikipedia or Wikidata, but is not subordinate to them. But, regardless of the outcome of the discussion, Category talk:Ancient Slavic religion and Category:Slavic paganism should be merged. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 13:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And this category have Category:Ancient Slavic history and culture as it upper parent category ;) --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 11:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In en.Wiki – Category:Slavic paganism. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 13:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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