File talk:Guard fitness program shows results 140523-Z-ZZ999-011.jpg

 

Vandalist's reasoning

Hi, I'm copying this from User talk:Fæ, where it was misplaced. Greetings. --Enyavar (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

The original complaint was added on 2023-06-03rd:

Why did you re-add stuff back to this picture of me?

I believe I sent you a message to remove this information in this image of me from your database and whatever you’re trying to control, which is doxxing an illegal under Google. It comes up under the search that I was teaching yoga. When you click on the image, I tried to correct the MS information as well as remove my name which was utilized illegally, and you instead chose to add the information back in. I need this information removed from the Internet. The army already removed and authorized it’s removal and then you illegally purchased it and then and whoever you are who I don’t know who you are is illegaly utilizing it for your own attempt to doxx me and bully me and I do not know who you are so I’m continuously reporting this to the FBI. Here’s the link to the image any information about me the military already removed it from us database so you are illegal utilizing it for your fake information generic Wikimedia page which I think is owned by people in India, so you’re also endangering my life if you have affiliations with people in India, because you are falsely exploiting me as teaching yoga, even though I have stated, I am not teaching yoga and have tried to correct dismiss information online for close to three years, so I just need the miss information removed… I now consider this a form of harassment and doxxing.. and it’s being reported to the FBI… File:Guard fitness program shows results 140523-Z-ZZ999-011.jpg 2600:1002:B019:D3E5:706D:9EB9:E397:2F4 19:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Dear Mrs H. (I suppose), I just noticed you writing a complaint on the page of a long-inactive community member here. Please understand that you are very much barking up the wrong tree: all User:Fae did was to import this picture in 2015 from the English Wikipedia. Your complaint, if any were necessary, should be with Sgt. Crystal Reidy, who is claimed to have been the uploder of the image, likely in a legal fashion under U.S. transparency laws for the NG (as per the image license). Also, Sgt Reidy wrote "leads yoga", not "teaches", and I may not be a native speaker of English but the difference in that wording seems fairly obvious. I don't know where India comes into your train of thoughts, or why you think Google would have any legislation over WP, or any part of the internet really. You also have NOT done any attempts "for three years" as can be seen in the file history: your first edit there was four days ago. I am now going to restore the image description (sans your name), and unless you decide to pursue an image deletion, that should be all the outcome to this matter. (tch, FBI threats...) --Enyavar (talk) 00:09, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

copied from the vandalized description

A I have asked this person to remove this image and information of me from the Internet and they keep re-editing it and changing it back even though I edit it and remove my information like I’ve asked it to be this person is trying to force information about me being on the Internet that I do not want on the Internet and it is a violation of my rights and my privacy. I have asked them to remove it now for close to three years and instead it was sold to another search engine. I would like this image and this information of me removed from the Internet like I’ve been asking now for close to 3 to 4 years. It doesn’t matter. If it’s edited on the page it still shows up in Google with my name and claiming that I was teaching yoga which I was not teaching yoga we were just stretching and exercising, so can you please remove this from the Internet and stop selling it and making money off of it illegally

Dear Mrs H. (I suppose): We're not making money off your picture nor did we sell it to whatever platform. Our image description NEVER claimed that you're teaching yoga, and weeks ago I've edited it to not even mention yoga, nor your name. Your first complaint (in form of anonymous vandalism) was noticed on this page last month and not four years ago. If you find this image on a different platform than Commons, please check for the license under which it might be published there, if it differs from the license we use you may possibly sue them. However, I was unable to find any other results for "<your name> teaching yoga" on any search engine (besides this page) so I can't even confirm that anyone ever used this image of public record for commercial purposes. --Enyavar (talk) 01:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Mrs H. (I suppose) has vandalized the image description again, this time with the content of a supposed complaints form, see also her response below where she finally engages in "discussion".

Dear Mrs H. (I suppose), nobody on Wikimedia Commons is stalking, doxxing, terrorizing nor assassinating you. As a community, we merely preserve images that we have been granted under U.S. transparency laws, as far as I do understand it. We have gone some way and removed your name and any reference to the exercice possibly being yoga (upon your earliest demands where you reported that someone else in India may have spread wild rumours about you being a yoga teacher and advertized with your likeness. I still find that claim highly unlikely, by the way!). "Doxxing" requires spreading of personal information: The image doesn't even show your face and refers to you as "a female Army Staff Sergeant of such-and-such platoon". Even if you had been famously the only such sergeant in all of Arizona, I doubt that any stalker could go anywhere with this.

As you are anonymously engaging with this image, we have no possible way to communicate with you, unless we'd engage in actual stalking to find out your contact details - which is something I assure you I have no intention to do, and so probably don't have other community members, neither. --Enyavar (talk) 23:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Primary Suspect/Suspect Business Information

Name: wiki commons

Additional Suspects/Suspect Businesses

No additional suspects/suspect businesses found. If you would like to add a suspect, please press the previous button to go back to the Suspect Information page and then press the add button.

Complaint

Crime Type:

Computer Crimes

Please explain the entire circumstances surrounding your complaint below:

i have asked this wiki commons.. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Guard_fitness_program_shows_results_140523-Z-ZZ999-011.jpgto stop using this picture of me as it has my personal private information and the army had already authorized it be removed and wiki commons illegally confiscated and purchased it...i told this stalker using my photo to remove it and stop using it so it has bern reported to fbi and dept of homeland security as stalking terrorism and doxxing., i explained even with the edit it still shows publically my information as wiki commons saves all edits.,, he is false stating it as vandalism.., being it is a picture of me with my private info it is not vandalism because i have asked him to delete it and stop publically posting it and he has refused so i consider it terrorism at this point 2600:1002:B024:2B87:54E0:A33E:766D:5AF0 03:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Progress! Mrs H. (I suppose) has now found the correct talk page, where we can now point her towards the Commons:Deletion policy. I didn't consider her repeated demands as valid, especially with regards to her initial reasoning, so I didn't start a deletion request: That should have been done by her, the button is easy enough to find. Regrettably, she announced that she doesn't read our responses. --Enyavar (talk) 05:03, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

its funny how you are actually thinking anyone cares about your fraudulent legal threats.. it is a pucture of me with false information and my private info...so i know take this as an implied threat by you you are a fraudulent organization... i already saw the fbi has eyes on you for utilizing their logo without permission and now you are doing it to US military as well so i will just keep speaking out about your criminal harassment of innocent people in hopes your illegal domain gets pulled 2600:1002:B00A:DCDE:E8DB:51FE:5061:C4BB 05:16, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

The only one who appears to makes debatable legal threats, is you, Mrs H. (I suppose). There were multiple tools available for you, including deletion requests or the request to hide the file revisions that stated your name before I edited it on your behalf. You are currently engaging in duplicating your complaint each time you edit here, which does not help your case. Your message has been received as far as I am concerned. Enyavar (talk) 05:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

One copy of the accusations with the duplications removed

We should still take the accusations of Mrs. H. (I suppose?) seriously, despite her unbecoming presentation here. So I took the liberty to remove all the duplications, and wrote a response to the main claims while ignoring the more outlandish threats. --Enyavar (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Mrs H. was blocked for vandalism

i am adding this person to the list of harassers as well...this whole group from wiki commons im reporting for terrorism for refusing me my right to have my personal info removed from the data base

"Your user name or IP address h blocked.
Editing and uploading from [redacted]
was disabled by Herbythyme for tI reason: Vandalism This block (ID # set to expire: 06:45, 22 July 2025

you obviously can dish it but cant take it...your on the edit list for an image and my persinal info and me trying to delete it which is my right to do ...you false reported it as vandalism so now im telling you i consider it terrorism and doxxing since none of you are removing it so i also reported it with screen shots to government agencies... i dont know you and your on the list of harassers refusing to remove my private info from your database

i do not know you your feelings about your editing space are not my problem....hey you did an edit on a page i want removed with my personal info so your are part of the problem allowing my personal info to be in your illegal corrupt database causing hardship in my life..your doing it to me im doing it back to wiki commons since its not being removed.., im sending ot to any of the harassers disguised as editors allowing it to keep happening...i mean you all want to create the harassment dont cry when the people you do it to stand up against you... im not a subscriber i am not part of your wiki commons pointless database.. i am one of the victims of your harassing pointless information database asking you to remove my information

i take issue with you being on the list of people who keep editing it back instead of removing my picture and this link from your data base

YES, your complaint has been noticed. Don't expect our voluntary support staff to immediately adjudicate this matter within minutes. Impatiently harassing other editors over and over here got you (rightly so) blocked, your possibly legitimate claims nonwithstanding. Good things may come for those who can wait. All the best; --Enyavar (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

also the reason i am not following the method provided for deletion request is because i understand the pyramid scheme with it all and the request for deletion format will create a new page in the wiki commons database just like it did when the FBI asked you to stop using their seal on one of your pages... so your admin who made rude comments in passive aggressive verbage towards me when i have been asking you to remove my personal info from your data base just exposed the fraud in your wiki commons.. trying to use cold intimidation sale tactics to trick me into creating a deletion request page which then adds a new link to the database that will appear in google search... so it is actually doxxing via entrapment

your not scary Herbythyme and noone cares about your blocking it does not hurt anyones feelings because most of us are living in the real world and not wasting our time doing pointless harassing edits on wiki commons... i submitted all this to FBI Attorney Generals Supreme Court and news outlets so they can see your refusal to remove my private info from your database... people not affiliated and not wanting to be affiliated with your database should not have to follow any of your code of conduct for removal of their own personal information... it should just be done automatically when we ask you to do it.. lm not required to live in your wiki common imaginary importance of editing world Herbythyme..you can dish it but cant take it

With regards to the latest Ad Hominem argument also towards me (removed by Kanasalaatti; thanks again), it's EoD for me here. My indulgent arguments are not appreciated. --Enyavar (talk) 08:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Mrs H. does not need to follow any rules?

i do not have to follow your protocols and your wiki common rules.. i told you to delete it so delete it... i do not have to follow your ridiculous harassing format and pointless rules for your pointless common area web data base i also do not have to be nice about it ..and i am definitely not going to make an account to accomplish you deleting my personal info... i do not have social media for a reason and i am definitly not going to create an account on your web domain

this is the funniest part about your fraudulent wiki commons.. you can dish it out to innocent victims you harass and share personal info about but when they try to edit your info since you refuse to remove their personal info... you respond with this very hypocritical statement...i say you are causing vandalism to my life so remove my info and my photo from your data base

its funny how you are actually thinking anyone cares about your fraudulent legal threats.. it is a picture of me with false information and my private info...so i know take this as an implied threat by you you are a fraudulent organization... i already saw the fbi has eyes on you for utilizing their logo without permission and now you are doing it to US military as well so i will just keep speaking out about your criminal harassment of innocent people in hopes your illegal domain gets pulled

i am not bothering to read any of your responses i am telling you to remove this link and image of me from your database... anything you say in response is null and void... i do not need your explanations.. you are a stranger and i do not know you and i am not forced to comply to your wiki commons and whatever it is you do.. it does not matter if you make money from it or not it is a picture of me and my private info as well as my personal tattoos and identifying marks showing..remove this image of me and i am not required to give you a story line about why...you do not get to decide if i feel doxxed or terrorised.. i decide that for myself.. i do not know you and how dare you attempt to gaslight a complete stranger when you are the one publically forcing a picture of me to exist in your data base..the person who took the photo is also military.. so the military authorized its removal to include the person who took it... that person worked for the military at the time it was taken...you were not authorized to obtain it for your database

YES life would be easier for everyone involved if you followed our rules or stopped ONE MOMENT TO CONSIDER our arguments. You could have filed a regular deletion request two months ago, but you didn't bother. Instead you rather engage yourself in spamming, trolling and online-harassment yourself.

Doxxing is indeed a serious issue and we would take YOU seriously if you took US seriously as well, or took legal issues as a whole seriously. But as it stands, there is nothing but this single image and its description where no doxxing occurs. At no point in time did it show more than your name, your rank and your obscured face in profile; on an image that was legally uploaded onto our platform. Well now your name was removed, and you could of course request it being hidden in the version history as well. All the best; --Enyavar (talk) 08:00, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Name removal in older versions

Info: I removed her name from metadata. --Achim55 (talk) 08:45, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Achim55: , that was very sensible. The image description still showed the personal name in versions before this one and also the one version before this one. And to be thorough: I also apologize for the mention of the surname in the initial version of this talk page. --Enyavar (talk) 09:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

I was going to suggest exactly that. Hopefully that will keep everybody happy — even the ambulance chaser, who might have found themselves suddenly out of their depth. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 12:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

@Achim55: There seems to have been a mistake in this: The original upload by Fae should be visible, although stricken out and not clickable. As it is, completely gone from file history, there’s no startdate for the availability of this image here in Commons. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 13:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

You're right. Done. --Achim55 (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks AFBorchert for completing this process now. Enyavar (talk) 05:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Streisand effect

A perfect example of the Streisand effect. I never would have known about this image, it would have been unseen, along with the millions of others that no one ever looks at. RAN (talk) 01:32, 23 August 2023 (UTC)