File talk:England 878.svg

Northumbria

@Rob984 and Þjarkur: The code for this file says "Northumbria" correctly, but the map itself displays "Northumberia" with an extra "e". Since the word is spelled right in the text file, I don't know how to fix it. Can one of you? —Mahāgaja · talk 18:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I was also unable to figure out how to fix it. I've reverted to the older version since it's probably preferable than the typo, hopefully someone can reinstate Rob984's edit without the typo. Þjarkur (talk) 21:20, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. Rob984 (talk) 17:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Cambridge dot in wrong place

The dot marking Cambridge has been put in the wrong place - Cambridge is further to the west.

Cornwall

In 878 Cornwall was not part of Wessex, it may have possibly been a tributary kingdom, but there is no evidence to even prove that. The only sources of information from the period: Asser's Life of King Alfred (c.893), Alfred's Will (c.899) both state that Cornwall and West Devon were not part of the Kingdom of Wessex. The Burghal Hidage (c.915) shows that by then Wessex was only just creeping in to western parts of Devon, but even into the reign of Athelstan Exeter was divided between the two peoples. Supposedly Athelstan pushed the border of Cornwall back to the river Tamar, this is supported by Alfred's Will, in which he bequests two estates, one in West Devon and one in North Cornwall, which were "all that I own in the counrtry of the Cornish". In the second half of the 10th century English kings start granting lands in Cornwall (there is one charter by Athelstan, but this has been considered dubious and may be a much later forgery), showing that they had more interest or power there by that time, but the County Hidage of c.1015 and the Laws of Cnut the Great are clear that Cornwall wasn't considered part of England in the early 11th century, even if it was under their control. I can provide references if needed, but this map is very inaccurate in this regard and is being used on many wiki pages. Bodrugan (talk) 10:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Asser is not the only source. For example, Kenstec, bishop of Cornwall, professed obedience to Canterbury in the mid-ninth century. Both Thomas Charles-Edwards, Wales and the Britons, p. 431, and John Reuben Davies, A Companion to the Early Middle Ages, ed. Stafford, p. 342, say that the subjection of Cornwall may be dated to the mid-ninth century. It is of course true that Cornwall was not fully integrated until much later, but a map cannot reflect every nuance. Devon was sometimes regarded as separate and north Cornwall was more integrated. There would be no clear correct place to put a border. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)