File talk:COVID-19 Outbreak lockdowns.svg

Graph:Map Template

Does it make sense to use the Graph Map template in Wikipedia/Wikiversity to make the world map more editable and easier to update in comparison to an image? --Bert Niehaus (talk) 14:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Western Sahara

@Nice4What: Nice map! I don't think we can give a whole separate color just for the western Sahara, though. Can we make a determination about whether, in a de facto sense, it is or is not under lockdown, and then assign it one of the main colors accordingly? Sdkb (talk) 00:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

@Sdkb: Thank you! I changed the way I had Western Sahara. It's just a slightly lighter color (not meant to be completelty different) since that part of Western Sahara is on lockdown, but that sovereignty isn't universally recognized. Nice4What (talk) 12:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Armenia, Georgia

Why these countries are not listed? Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 09:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can tell from the current version of the map, both Armenia and Georgia are on the map. They are both shown to have a current national lockdown - please say if this is incorrect. Bibeyjj (talk) 16:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. To date, there is no lockdown in both Georgia and Armenia but is in Azerbaijan. Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 07:21, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Switzerland

There are at least partly restrictions link. Please change the colour accordingly, thank you! :) Best, —DerHexer (Talk) 09:32, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Kosovo and Crimea

Why the hell is Kosovo part of Serbia but Crimea part of Russia? Ardan1211 (talk) 19:27, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ardan1211: For a person living in Crimea, it is Russian law that applies to them, whether or not Crimea should be part of Ukraine. Therefore, the lockdowns enforced in Crimea are from the Russian government, not the Ukrainian government. Obviously, the disputed status of Crimea is another issue, and I personally support Ukraine's claim as you do. However, practically speaking, news sources from Crimea report lockdown measures consistent with Russian policies.

I can't talk definitively on Kosovo, as I'm not as knowledgeable on the level of autonomy that Kosovo currently has. I would suspect that Kosovo is in a similar category to Crimea in being under the de facto control of Serbia. Bibeyjj (talk) 16:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Kazakhstan

Kazakhstan started subnational lockdowns starting with the two main cities on 19th March: https://www.inform.kz/en/two-large-cities-of-kazakhstan-to-be-on-quarantine-from-mar-19_a3626187

Since then several other cities have been closed to incoming and outgoing non-essential travel. Within these cities, only essential shops (supermarkets, pharmacies) are allowed to stay open. Some restaurants have moved to delivery only whilst others have closed. Bars and cafes are closed. Groups of more than 3 people are not allowed in public. Parks, squares, mosques and churches are closed. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.255.216.72 (talk) 13:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Japan

Japan has no lockdown, not even partial. What Japan has is an emergency declaration which includes a request for people to stay at home, but it is a request, it isn't mandatory, and there are no penalties for ignoring the request. Link 1 Link 2 — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 240B:13:9220:3B00:1487:CF3A:8945:7133 (talk) 18:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Having checked your sources and others, I agree that there is no legal lockdown in Japan, and hasn't been for the whole pandemic. I imagine the maker of the map has coloured it as 'subnational restriction' for 2 reasons. Firstly, the guidance only applies to 7 prefectures, so is subnational. Secondly, the social pressure to conform to advice is as effective as legal measures in other countries, so it makes for a better comparison. Obviously, there are many varieties of advice from governments, and it can be argued that simplifying the Japanese situation may be useful to the map as a whole. Bibeyjj (talk) 16:33, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Tosh. Movements have been down by much less than in countries under lockdown, as you can check here: https://covid19.healthdata.org/japan

As you can see, movements (what they call "mobility") were only down by 50% and only for seven days or so. Compare to France, where movements were down by 80% for weeks on end, or the UK, where movements have been down by 60-70% for two months.

Further, the state of emergency in Japan was extended to cover the entire country on 16 April. So it makes no sense to say there has been anything regional. Finally the state of emergency was fully lifted on 25 May.

The map should be about whether there has been a lockdown, not whether you estimate that there have been conditions that are somehow equivalent to a lockdown. Any source will tell you that there has been no lockdown (as you yourself have stated), which is what the map covers. Speed74 (talk) 04:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at the COVID-19 WikiProject on standardizing various aspects of maps

 You are invited to join the discussion at w:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject COVID-19#Best universal colors for maps and graphs?. Sdkb (talk) 21:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at w:Talk:COVID-19 pandemic#Map of world lockdowns is inaccurate

 You are invited to join the discussion at w:Talk:COVID-19 pandemic#Map of world lockdowns is inaccurate. Sdkb (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Map has serious issues

Further to my comments at the Wikipedia COVID-19 pandemic talk page, which seem to have been roundly ignored, this map needs fixing ASAP. As Sdkb rightly points out, per WP:RECENCY the map should show whether countries have used a lockdown at all to deal with the pandemic, which is more notable in the long run than whether they have a lockdown right now. In order for the map to be verifiable, it should exactly match the table given at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_lockdowns, which is referenced. I have my issues with that table, but it would be a good start for the map to be pegged to it. Speed74 (talk) 04:23, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Update: I am currently working on bringing the map up to scratch. Bear with me, I will publish as soon as possible. Speed74 (talk) 09:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I have fixed some of the problems with the map. If someone wants to continue, go ahead. However, I'm not sure keeping this map constantly updated is feasible. It might be better to just colour in countries that have used a lockdown, regardless of whether it is still in place or not. Even then, though, the definition of "lockdown" varies, and it will be difficult to get data from every country in the world. Speed74 (talk) 10:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Inaccuracy

Map isn't accurately describing the situation. For example, Serbia and Croatia were both "unlocked" over a month ago, with precise dates and references given in en::COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns. 109.92.53.187 04:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

To anyone wanting to update the map using referenced data in the table on Wikipedia, simply download the .svg file and open it in a text editor such as notepad. You can work out what to do from there. Speed74 (talk) 07:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Cuarentena En Bolivia

Bolivia aun esta en cuarentena y en varias ciudades aun es rigida. RonnySb (talk) 01:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)