File talk:1650 Halicz Kalusz Nowice Morcza Nadworna Molotkow Markowa Dobryliw.png

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@AntiCompositeNumber: Yet another file I updated. This is another source, but same way (screenshot, image cut/crop, etc). I added source and considering 2020-1648 is far beyond 75 years, I assume it's either "PD-old" or "PD-ineligible". Please advise what is better suitable. Thanks in advance. --Andrii Lundiak (talk) 23:57, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AntiCompositeNumber: In file File:Beauplan special fragment 7.jpg I see it uses "PD-Art|PD-old-100", and I assume, if my screenshot/cut/crop is only piece of that art, I am not eligible to use this, right? So simple "PD-old" would be enough? Please confirm? --Andrii Lundiak (talk) 00:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, AntiCompositeNumber (talk · contribs), if you could hint me on WikiPedia, how to use Template:Image_frame or any other templates, so I provide File:Beauplan special fragment 7.jpg as a source and then show ONLY dedicated segment of image. Kinda as clip of area as i HTML images. Then, I could remove my "schreenshoty-crop" file at all. UPD. I think I found - Template:CSS_image_crop --Andrii Lundiak (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Landike: PD-Art is simply a wrapper that mentions that digitizations of public domain works are still in the public domain. It is not required, but can be useful to make this point clear. The best template is {{PD-old-auto-expired|deathyear=1673}} because the author died in 1673 and the map was published before 1925. While you can use templates like {{CSS image crop}} to change how much of a file is displayed, it is often better to create a new cropped file. Creating a new file means that only the part of the file that will be displayed has to be sent over the network at the best resolution for the use. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:15, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@AntiCompositeNumber: , yes, exactly page performance was my concern using CSS on huge image (I'm programmer and i know it very good). That is clear. But what license will require then cropped version by me? WIll it be same {{PD-old-auto-expired}} in case of map like I have? Can you confirm this statement, so that I know for sure in the future. --Andrii Lundiak (talk) 21:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Landike: Cropping a photo doesn't add any new copyrightable expression, so the resulting image is covered by the same license as the original. If you're cropping a file that's already on Commons, you can usually just copy the file description page and only change a few things, like the description and categories, and indicate the original file. toolforge:croptool can do this for you. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 23:41, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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