File talk:05212022 GrowNYC StopNSwap Brooklyn NY Washington Park 2.jpg

not a Greenmarket?

Hi @Wil540 art, it's a bit difficult to make out some parts of the picture but I can't see any sort of food vendors, is that right?

The flyer for this event says this was a Saturday. The flyer, filename, description page and EXIF data all agree on date and my calendar says that that day was a Saturday. The farmers market at this location is on Sundays and that is not a GrowNYC market. but this does appear to be a GrowNYC event. (GrowNYC shirt, logo on bottom of flyer) occasionally a GrowNYC market is moved to a different day of the week (e.g. Thursday and Friday markets on Thanksgiving week) but there aren't any GrowNYC markets that operate only once or twice a year. I also can't think of any market locations that are operated by GrowNYC on certain days of the week and another organization on other days of the week in the same place.

thanks for the upload and looking forward to any further info you have. (looking to update the enwiki wording too not just the file description/name) Jeremyb (talk) 03:33, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Jeremyb,

Thanks for diving into this one. I support any renaming conclusion you come to. This was a "Stop-N-Swap" supported by GrowNYC. See photo of the same event here: W:Commons:File:05 21 2022 GrowNYC Greenmarket Brooklyn NY Washington Park.jpg Does that make it a greenmarket? - Wil540 art (talk) 23:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

I will get this double checked but here's as I understand it:

• Greenmarket is a place where farmers and other producers come to sell food and other agricultural products. raw ingredients, baked goods and other prepared items. (e.g. pickles, applesauce, tomato sauce) These may be farmed, wild and foraged. A producer must primarily sell their own products and producers must get a permit from GrowNYC for any products that come from a different farm. Food is not sold by GrowNYC, it is sold by the farms directly. GrowNYC also is not responsible for transporting products to or from the market.
• Farmstand has food collected from a number of different farms. The farms do not come to the stand themselves. Products are sold by and transported by GrowNYC.{{Fact}} These stands are smaller than Greenmarkets. Similar to Greenmarkets customers may pick and choose products at time of purchase.
• Fresh Food Box. more like a CSA but paying/committing 1 week in advance. less control over exactly which items you receive when you pick up. Sold and transported by GrowNYC.{{Fact}}

those 3 are in Food Access and Agriculture. Stop 'N' Swap® seems to be in the same GrowNYC department with compost, Zero Waste. --Jeremyb (talk) 04:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

What should I rename it to? "File:05 21 2022 GrowNYC Stop 'N' Swap Brooklyn NY Washington Park 2.jpg"  ? Wil540 art (talk) 17:17, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

That looks good (and same change for the other file from that event) except maybe skip the quote marks in Stop 'N' Swap. I don't know a lot about commons naming conventions but I found Commons:File naming § Language, character set and extension which says:

Avoid "funny" symbols (control characters, unneeded punctuation, etc.) that might be significant in future wiki markup. It is a good idea to stick to graphemic characters, numbers, underscore (space), ASCII hyphen/minus/dash, plus, and period (dot).

Confirmed what I wrote before was correct as of end of summer. Since then they closed all Fresh Food Box sites. some or all of those sites were converted to Farmstand. --Jeremyb (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jeremyb The file name has been changed. Wil540 art (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)