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Voting on your mobile

If you have problems voting using the mobile, try switching it to 'Desktop' for the desktop-on-mobile. It should display all the buttons more correctly.

We are aware of the problem and fixing the outdated code is on the to-do list for next year. --Cart (talk) 12:51, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

• Remember that 1st login in wiki use the original id.. you give my memory back thanks so much wiki team Radizero (talk) 09:56, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Sivanantham govindan

Hi,

How can I upload my images for Contest?

Regards Siva — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sivanantham govindan (talk • contribs) 03:48, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Siva and welcome to Commons, unfortunately you can't enter this competition. The POTY 2020 is only for the photos that archived Featured picture status during 2020. If you want to get your photos in the 2021 POTY competition, they must first get promoted to 'Featured pictures' by passing the voting at Fetured picture candidates. My advice is that you start by reading the Image guidelines and asking at Photography critiques for feedback about your images. Since you are new to Commons, it is also good to start with Quality images before moving on to 'Featured pictures'. --Cart (talk) 04:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Steinsplitter

The title of the Hebrew version of the page "Picture of the Year/2020/R1/Gallery/Astronomy" is misspelled - it should be "החלל החיצון" ("Outer Space") and not "החלל החציון" ("Median Space"). רז עודד (talk) 06:54, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Coldbolt

Lua error in Module:POTY/parser at line 62: table index is nil. Coldbolt (talk) 09:45, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Dealt with Commons talk:Picture of the Year/2020#Software error report --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Vincecaldwell6

Hello, I can't vote on my end. Can anybody help?

Thanks

-Vince — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincecaldwell6 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vincecaldwell6! I'm sorry, but from what I can see, you are not eligible to vote this year. To vote you have to have made 75 edits on any one Wiki-project before 1 January 2021. Up until today you have only made a total of 24 edits (on English Wikipedia and Commons combined). You can read the rules here and check your eligibility yourself here. Keep up the good editing work and then you will be able to vote for POTY 2021 next year. --Cart (talk) 19:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Drumzrob

How can I enter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drumzrob (talk • contribs) 07:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Drumzrob and welcome to Commons, unfortunately you can't enter this competition. The POTY 2020 is only for the photos that archived Featured picture status during 2020. If you want to get your photos in the 2021 POTY competition, they must first get promoted to 'Featured pictures' by passing the voting at Fetured picture candidates. My advice is that you start by reading the Image guidelines and asking at Photography critiques for feedback about your images. Since you are new to Commons, it is also good to start with Quality images before moving on to 'Featured pictures'. --Cart (talk) 09:02, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Crimea is Ukraine

This picture of Crimea is in Russia Category. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DSC7287_%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2.jpg But Crimea is Ukraine. What is official position of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverish Lily (talk • contribs) 05:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Silverish Lily, you are at the page for the wrong competition. This is the page for 'Picture of the year' and the photo you ask about was in the 'Wiki Loves Earth'. For detailed answers, you have to ask the organizers there how they sort their photos. Go to: Commons talk:Wiki Loves Earth 2021. Wiki Loves Earth is a competition for photos of protected areas, and from what I can see that particular area is recognized as a protected area by both Russia and Ukraine. Wikipedia is neutral and there is a tag on the photo and on the page with winners stating: "The legal status of Crimea is disputed. Protected areas in Crimea are covered by both Russian and Ukrainian contests." The photo was entered in the Russian competition and therefore placed in that section. The results of the Ukrainian competition are not in yet. --Cart (talk) 08:23, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Image sets

This is the first time I recall some entries in PotY being "sets" of pictures (namely, the series of hospital worker photos and the two photos of the Christ the Redeemer statue set against the moon and the sun). How are the votes counted for these entries? Do votes for any of the images in a set count as votes for the whole set? If not, then some of the photos are being disadvantaged because they are not displayed unless the user specifically chooses to see them (by selecting "Next set image"). Also, only some of the images in the hospital worker series are "hidden" behind the "Next set image" button, not all of them. I'm seeing the first image in the series with the option to cycle through 13 of the other 15 images, but the remaining two images, the 2nd and 9th, are showing up as totally separate entries (so, IOW, I'm seeing the 1st, 2nd, and 9th images and have to click on "Next set image" under the 1st to see any of the others). That's just weird… - dcljr (talk) 05:05, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, so I just tried to vote for one of the images "hidden" behind the "Next set image" button, and it registered as a vote for the first image in the series (i.e., the one shown on the page when it initially loads, not the one that was showing when I clicked "Vote"). So, I guess this means the "extra" images in these sets (which aren't visible initially) don't count for anything, and shouldn't be considered. In which case, the "Next set image" button shouldn't be there in the first place. So… why is it there? - dcljr (talk) 06:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi dcljr! Sets of photos have been in POTY for years now. They were promoted to Featured Pictures (FP) as sets and that's why they enter POTY as sets too. Sets have a special standard when they are nominated at Featured Pictures Candidates (FPC); a vote on a set is a vote for all the photos or none. In a set, the pictures should enhance each other, so that the experience of seeing them together is greater than just looking at the individual images. If one image in the set is deemed to be of inferior quality, the whole set will fail. That is why there are so few sets overall, they are harder to get through the FP voting process than single images. The images are presented at POTY the same way they were promoted at FPC: You vote for all the images in the set or not at all. You can't select just one of the images and vote for that one. I know this can seem strange if you are not familiar with the voting process for featured pictures, which precedes the POTY.

The question of how to make the sets more visible in the POTY voting has been raised before, and will be considered for next year. Having just the "Next set image" button does not really do the sets justice and misconceptions can easily occur.

Thank you for your feedback! --Cart (talk) 09:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

 Info 02 and 09 have their own nominations, not part of the set. --Andrei (talk) 06:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from GoginkLobabi

Hello,

I hope this is the right place to post this.

I tried reviewing the translation of the banner of Wikimedia POTY in french, but when I suggested a new translation, I got an error message : "Publishing the translation failed: You do not have permission to edit pages in the CNBanner namespace." Does anyone know why ? And how to fix that ? And if I don't have the rights to do it, can someone else edit the french banner ? Because the current translation is not very good... This is about the sentence "View the finalists and vote for your favorite." in the banner. The current french translation is : "Voyez les finalistes et votez pour votre favori". I would like to change the translation to "Consultez les images finalistes et votez pour vos favorites."

Thank you in advance.

--GoginkLobabi (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi GoginkLobabi! All banners that are on display across large parts of the WikiMedia/Wikipedias are always protected since they are often the target of vandalism. Sadly, not everyone has your good intentions. The best thing is to post the suggested change in translation on that banner's talk page and hope that someone with clearance to edit the banner, sees it and can change the translation accordingly. --Cart (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Voting still going on?

Shouldn’t voting have ended on the 29th? --Megalogastor (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Megalogastor. yes that's true. It should have ended on the 29th. But it is a big holiday in parts of the world where some of the code writers live and they might have been otherwise occupied. Firefly or Zhuyifei1999, time to close things? --Cart (talk) 16:06, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Not that I'm occupied, but I don't think it's good for my sanity if I keep having to ping people to do this and that. If those organizers won't keep an eye on the dates of the event or double check if all the pages display what they are supposed to display (oh come on that's the main page, the first of the links); if those CN admins won't setup the banners until after the agreed start date, even after several pings, and when pings get blatantly ignored (the recipient was talking in another channel around the same time (yes you can say they might have missed it, but that wasn't the first nudge either)); if literally everything has to be done at the last moment possible or even later, and then only get done after I nudged people more times than I am willing to; wait, I'm sorry, what do I have to do with this event again? I'm not your 'reminder' app.

I simply left the chat like two weeks ago, to cool down a bit and so I don't have to say anything that might hurt / anger anyone (I guess now I might have, by typing the above), but I am very done here. You're on your own.

Also FYI, we (IIRC it was mostly Steinsplitter) used to talk to the Foundation writers to publish a blog post each year on the POTY event. Thought it would be irresponsible of me not to mention what we did before since it isn't obvious, but whether you get an post published or not, I don't care anymore. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

My sincerest apologies for mistakenly 'pinging' you. It was only because I saw you as one of the contributors in creating some of the POTY page. I will not trouble you again. All the best, --Cart (talk) 14:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

@Megalogastor & W.carter - done for the gadget-assisted voting, and posting imminently at AN to 'protect' the voting pages just in case. firefly ( t · c ) 16:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Ah - the voting pages were already protected (via the Titleblacklist), so that's job done. :) firefly ( t · c ) 16:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Great! Thanks! --Cart (talk) 16:17, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Results?

When will they be posted? --Mithunc (talk) 23:10, 8 November 2021 (UTC)