Commons:Valued image candidates/Russie - Moscou - Novodevichy 4.jpg

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Russie - Moscou - Novodevichy 4.jpg

declined
Image
Nominated by Ikar.us (talk), photo by User:Lotusalp on 2010-06-11 21:30 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Novodevichy Convent, Moscow
Used in Global usage
Reason allMost characteristic buildings in one image, filling it -- Ikar.us (talk), photo by User:Lotusalp
Review
(criteria)
  •  Support Agree with reason. Documented, geocoded, used in 8 pages in 5 projects. The only other images I've found giving such an overall view are 19th-century illustrations (1; 2). The nominated image is the best image for the scope, IMO. P.S. : I've edited a new version of the file (slight increase of luminosity and contrast, chiefly). --Myrabella (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Some buildings are missing, at least one church and part of monastery.See this : [1] --Mile (talk) 09:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not on Commons presently? Please consider that the choice is limited to the available images on Commons. --Myrabella (talk) 14:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • He's right that my reason was wrong. Not all buildings are there, Dormition Cathedral and Intercession Church are missing. But it's hardly possible to put all of then them on a terrestric image. Aerial would be perfect, but we don't have one. --Ikar.us (talk) 20:52, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've transferred the proposed opponent. The tip of Dormition Cathedral is visible. That's not much more, and the image quality is a bit weird. --Ikar.us (talk) 21:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I stay agree with the more accurate reason :-) This one remains my favorite among the 4 candidates. --Myrabella (talk) 21:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some considerations about the scope: I wondered why en: distinguishes Novodevichy Convent and Donskoy Monastery, while ru: doesn't. Found that very different differences were usual for these terms:
    1. Monastery for a facility, convent for an organisational unit.
    2. A monastery's inhabitants spend their lifes in cloister, a convent is the homebase for a congregation who operates in the world.
    3. Monastery is for monks, convent for nuns. Seems that the latter is followed here. --Ikar.us (talk) 13:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article in en:WP begins with "Novodevichy Convent, also known as Bogoroditse-Smolensky Monastery (Russian: Новоде́вичий монасты́рь, Богоро́дице-Смоле́нский монасты́рь)" [...] Its name, sometimes translated as the New Maidens' Monastery, was devised to differ from an ancient maidens' convent in the Moscow Kremlin". I guess your point 3 may explain the translation "Convent". --Myrabella (talk) 13:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that's what I tried to say. --Ikar.us (talk) 13:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Scores: 
1. Russie - Moscou - Novodevichy 4.jpg: 0 <--
2. Novodeviči.JPG: -1
3. Novodevichy Monastery.jpg: +1 
3. Novodievivhi-p1030345.jpg: -1 
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File:Russie - Moscou - Novodevichy 4.jpg: Declined. <--
File:Novodeviči.JPG: Declined.
File:Novodevichy Monastery.jpg: Promoted.
File:Novodievivhi-p1030345.jpg: Declined.
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