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Voting period ends on 26 Apr 2009 at 16:06:02
school of jacks.

Come on you have not yet look at the image on you 24" monitor. :) --Mbz1 (talk) 16:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that it looks good on this tired relic of a computer means that it must be an awesome shot. So I have no qualms about supporting. Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 16:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Info The image was taken not in a local aquarium on a sunday trip. It was taken in w:Papua New Guinea. I spent there 10 days, and I saw it only once. You believe it is easy to reshot with a better camera, please be my guest. This image of mine File:Hawaii turtle 2.JPG was taken with the same bad camera and with the same low resolution. It is FP on 7 Wikipedias and on Commons. It got fifth place in POTY last year. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will you provide tickets to PNG :-D ? Seriously though, I see fish basically identical to these (jacks/pompanos) off Ft Lauderdale beach. I'm not saying I could do better (sadly I don't have an underwater camera), just that it wouldn't be that hard for one of the millions of people that live here to take a similar picture. Some divers go out there with photo equipment worth more than my car ... --ianaré (talk) 15:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I provide you tickets. Why not :) Seriously though, please do not forget, that these divers with better cameras should be willing to upload their high resolution images to Commons with free license. Thank you. BTW we need to remember that as soon as a better image is availabale the other one could be delisted.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. but still ... --ianaré (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
May I please ask you, Hans, to help to ID the fishes? Thank you. --Mbz1 (talk) 23:15, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am sure. Wikipedia is not a reliabale source I am afraid.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think fotosource is a very reliable biology source. Look here and here. -ianaré (talk) 16:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I found few other pictures taken in Papua New Guinea too, and IMO the fact that the image shows the school of fishes has enough EV to get promoted even without proper ID. Yet this image is not going to get promoted, so I believe there's nothing more to discuss. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is a bad habit to rely only on internet sources and on self proclaimed expertise to do identifications of organisms. There are plenty other possibilities to reach a correct ID. A picture on the internet is (in most cases) NOT a reliable source. Please use literature. The id given here is completely false rendering the image ineligible for FP, QI or VI. C. bartholomaei is a western Atlantic species (Massachusetts south to Brazil). Lycaon (talk) 12:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment One legitimate criticism of Wikipedia is that of the legitimacy of the authors, veracity of content, etc., etc. But there is another level of truth, and that is that this is a collective effort and the responsability of the veracity of the information rests on the contributors. Under the logic of "self proclaimed expertise" everyone´s contribution is questionable, and that is ok. But if a real expert swims these waters, well, let him contribute and help set the record straight in such a way that his contribution also contributes to other contributors (so much contribution!!!) instead of just pointing out flaws in sterile criticism. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 21:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

* Oppose As per ianaré -- Tiago Fioreze (talk) 18:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC) I understand you want to oppose, but too late. Image is not passing anyway, please do not worry.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply] 

result: 9 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral => not featured. Maedin\talk 19:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt 1, withdrawn

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fusiliers, and the distribution of the species you specified is limited to the atlantic ocean (as per above). --ianaré (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please, Hans, do not keep this suspence going, tell me what they are. :)--Mbz1 (talk) 20:20, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment They are NOT Jacks. :-((. Lycaon (talk) 12:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note the use of the word 'if'. I would not dare argue with a marine biologist about the identity of a fish, or any other animal for that matter. Simply accept the pun in the spirit it was given. Also, might I suggest a longer holiday next time? You seem to have returned in a fouler temper than the when you left. Commons doesn't always have to be such 'Serious Business'. Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 13:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      •  Comment Well, considering the fact that Wikipedia is a place where people contribute to build knowledge, and that essentially this is a TEAM EFFORT, and considering the fact that Mila is a very, very valuable and generous contributor who donates pictures of great quality and value, and considering that she has invested part of her life generating such images and therefore shares a little of herself through her photography, with us, with Wikipedia and all those who can benefit from her contributions, the very, very least that a knowledgeable contributor could do is to do as Mila, to liberally and generously share her or his knowledge and expand in her contributions, and let her enjoy the satisfaction that one gets when one´s work gets promoted. A little recognition is good for the soul. And besides, stricktly from the photographic point of view, this image is definitely featurable.--Tomascastelazo (talk) 21:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination 

result: 2 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral => withdrawn. Maedin\talk 19:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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