Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Zeligowski lucjan 2.jpg & Image:Zeligowski lucjan 3.jpg & Image:Zeligowski Lucjan.jpg
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I dont think, that Template:PD-Polish fits here; he died 1947 in London; he never lived in the People's Republic of Poland (as he did not return after the war) so the image was not taken under the law of the PRP ...Sicherlich Post 23:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep In short, it has nothing to do with Żeligowski. The picture was neither owned by him, made by him nor published by him. It was PD already the very moment it was made, as it was an official portrait of a Polish officer, PD by default. Originally probably licensed under the pre-war copyright, it was published several times after the war as well. Both copyrights were almost identical anyway, so it's simply easier to tag them after the known publisher than to trace the very first publisher to publish it - as PD anyway. Halibutt 20:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- in other words: if someone took a image i made and publised it (before 1994) without my permission in Poland it is PD worldwide? i doubt that ...Sicherlich Post 04:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Nope. If you were a Polish photographer, making pictures for the Polish Army under the regulations demanding all officers to have an official portrait in full gala uniform, and then the picture would be used according to the original purpose (to be published by the Army wherever it sees fit, as was the case with this one), the picture would not loose anything. It would still be PD, as from the beginning. Halibutt 09:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- so where do you know from that the image was
- Nope. If you were a Polish photographer, making pictures for the Polish Army under the regulations demanding all officers to have an official portrait in full gala uniform, and then the picture would be used according to the original purpose (to be published by the Army wherever it sees fit, as was the case with this one), the picture would not loose anything. It would still be PD, as from the beginning. Halibutt 09:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- in other words: if someone took a image i made and publised it (before 1994) without my permission in Poland it is PD worldwide? i doubt that ...Sicherlich Post 04:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- made by a polish photographer
- made in Poland
- and how can the law of the Peoples Republic of Poland be valid for the time before? maybe the photpographer was french? the photo taken in London? hte PRP did not exist at the time the picture was taken (as he died before) ...Sicherlich Post 11:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Delete The person died 1947 --> image was taken 1947 or before, but the law was released 1952. The law is non-retrospective, so the law cannot be valid for this images. --Raymond Disc. 20:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)- Keep {{PD-US}} refers to times when US didn't exits as well. A.J. 08:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- but this images are much older and so probably PD-old anyways; and it seems this law is explizit for the time before; this is not the case in PD-pl ...Sicherlich Post 20:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- oh and if I'm not very mistake the us was created in the 18th century? ..Sicherlich Post 20:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- but this images are much older and so probably PD-old anyways; and it seems this law is explizit for the time before; this is not the case in PD-pl ...Sicherlich Post 20:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- There isn't much to go on, why the image is public domain. Copyright status must be clear and undisputed. It should be supported by the law and by practical court examples. And this should be added to the image or a template used by the image. Since this hasn't been done, I'd say Delete... / Fred Chess 16:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Deleted due to uncertainty of copyright status. / Fred Chess 01:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
