Commons:Deletion requests/Image:William Webb Ellis Cup.jpg
Same reason as Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Cricket World Cup trophy.png; in violation of Commons:Derivative works.--Thugchildz 07:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Delete per nom.--Thugchildz 23:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Keep drinking vessel → industrial machine made utility article → not copyrighted --LimoWreck 22:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I do not think that counts as a drinking vessel, from dictionary.com- drinking vessel noun a vessel intended for drinking and this isn't intended for drinking and per Commons:Derivative works- Photographs of three-dimensional objects are always copyrighted. Even if the object itself is in the public domain. If you didn't take the photograph yourself, you need permission from the owner of the photographic copyright (unless of course the photograph itself is in the public domain). And the photograph can not be public domain because By taking a picture, you create a new, copyrighted work (i.e. the photograph). At the same time, the rights of the original still exists and don't go away. By publishing the picture, you do something only the original copyright holder is allowed to do. That's why you won't be able to use your own photography of a copyrighted work (except as fair use) unless the creator of the original gave you permission to do so. It must be deleted.--Thugchildz 02:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- COM:DW#Isn.27t_every_product_copyrighted_by_someone.3F_What_about_cars.3F_Or_kitchen_chairs.3F_My_computer_case.3F --LimoWreck 17:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
And what was the point of that? This clearly doesn't fall into any of that and is quality art work in a 3d object.--THUGCHILDz 02:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- One must be really slow to understand if one doesn't grasp the meaning of that link. You know how these things are made ? Extrusion, pressing, molding, blending, whatever industrial routine you like. Have a look on the Wikipedias. You can buy blank cups in a store here, freshly rolled out machines. Just do request to engrave some text on it; and there you go, another cup for your local poker club, cycling club, scouts tournaments or whatever you like. That's what COM:DW#Isn.27t_every_product_copyrighted_by_someone.3F_What_about_cars.3F_Or_kitchen_chairs.3F_My_computer_case.3F is about. --LimoWreck 21:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- You can do whatever and buy whatever but if the engraving is your idea that that's copyrighted to you and if they(industry) makes the cup and it was their idea, then its copyrighted to them; no matter how many copies are made. No matter what just putting a link without explanation doesn't help either way.--THUGCHILDz 02:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep drinking vessel. --Rtc 12:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Withdraw nomination- This is a drinking vessel, since it was created with the possibility to be able to drink from it, it was intended somewhat for drinking.--THUGCHILDz 02:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep. A difficult one. This is an image of a 3D work of artistic craftsmanship that was made in 1987, according to [1], and would not normally be allowed here. But the cup was not a totally original design: according to [2], "the cup was made at Garrard's workshop based on a Victorian design of a 1740 cup by Paul de Lamerie". As the original design appears to be old, the photo is ok. --MichaelMaggs 16:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
