Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Nude Descending a Staircase.jpg
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Copyvio. Duchamp was French and died 1968. {{PD-US}} not applicable to non-U.S. works, and furthermore, exhibition is not publication. Lupo 13:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- BTW: uploaded by steward Yann. With all due respect: I do think an admin/steward should know our rules. Lupo 13:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- I know the rule, Lupo. ;o) I carefully studied this case before uploading this image. If you read the description, you can see that this work was first published in USA in 1913 at the Armory Show in New York (the artist was refused publication in France). Since that time, it is in USA, and is now in permanent display at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. This work is a US work, even if the author was French at the time of publication. Actually it may never have been published in France. The only requirement for {{PD-US}} is Works published in the U.S. before 1923. There is no requirement on the nationality of the author. So I think that this might be borderline, but is within our actual accepted rules for publication. This is the same case as Image:Duchamp Fountaine.jpg which was uploaded before. Yann 18:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment The Duchamp Fountaine photo was an actual US print publication; are you arguing that the first public display of an artwork is the equivilent of a first publication? -- Infrogmation 23:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)- Yann: as you probably have found out by now, "exhibition" (or "public display") is not "publication" according to U.S. law. See 17 USC 101, definition of "publication": ... A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication. ... (emphasis mine). You would need to find evidence that the work was published before 1923. And note that Hirtle's footnote 6 indicates that this definition essentially already held under the old 1909 law. (It also speaks of copies.) Lupo 07:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I misundertood the requirements for paintings. I understand now that public display does not mean publication. I deleted this image. Yann 11:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- I know the rule, Lupo. ;o) I carefully studied this case before uploading this image. If you read the description, you can see that this work was first published in USA in 1913 at the Armory Show in New York (the artist was refused publication in France). Since that time, it is in USA, and is now in permanent display at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. This work is a US work, even if the author was French at the time of publication. Actually it may never have been published in France. The only requirement for {{PD-US}} is Works published in the U.S. before 1923. There is no requirement on the nationality of the author. So I think that this might be borderline, but is within our actual accepted rules for publication. This is the same case as Image:Duchamp Fountaine.jpg which was uploaded before. Yann 18:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
--- Deleted Yann 11:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
