Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Memorial Cup Trophy.jpg
Same reason as Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Cricket World Cup trophy.png; in violation of Commons:Derivative works. Thugchildz 08:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Deleteper nom.--Thugchildz 07:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep drinking vessel → industrial machine made utility article → not copyrighted --LimoWreck 22:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I do not think that counts as a drinking vessel, from dictionary.com- drinking vessel noun a vessel intended for drinking and this isn't intended for drinking and per Commons:Derivative works- Photographs of three-dimensional objects are always copyrighted. Even if the object itself is in the public domain. If you didn't take the photograph yourself, you need permission from the owner of the photographic copyright (unless of course the photograph itself is in the public domain). And the photograph can not be public domain because By taking a picture, you create a new, copyrighted work (i.e. the photograph). At the same time, the rights of the original still exists and don't go away. By publishing the picture, you do something only the original copyright holder is allowed to do. That's why you won't be able to use your own photography of a copyrighted work (except as fair use) unless the creator of the original gave you permission to do so. It must be deleted.--Thugchildz 03:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- However, "the design of a useful article * * * shall be considered a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work only if, and only to the extent that, such design incorporates pictorial, graphic, or sculptural features that can be identified separately from, and are capable of existing independently of, the utilitarian aspects of the article.” A “useful article” is defined as “an article having an intrinsic utilitarian function that is not merely to portray the appearance of the article or to convey information."[1] The cup itself is not copyrighted because it is not a work in the first place. Please read all of COM:DW before you cite it. A drinking vessel is a drinking vessel if has been made with the intention that drinking is possible, not only if it has been made with the intention to be used for drinking. On the other hand, this cup contains separate and independent elements (the little sculptures to the left and to the right).--Rtc 09:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
And so how is that not a work in the 1st place? The copyrighted designs on the cup can identified separately and is capable of existing independently. Also is there any policy here that clarifies the drinking vessels situation?--Thugchildz 09:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, they cannot be identified separately and they are not capable of existing independently – they have no independent artistic merit. As I already mentioned, only the little sculptures here are separate and independent and thus copyrighted as works of applied art. "Design" and "copyrighted" are mutually exclusive, BTW. --Rtc 10:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
And so, whatever the reason, the little sculptures are still copyrighted.--THUGCHILDz 02:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- That's correct. --Rtc 11:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Delete. Image was taken from the HHOF website. No indication on the website that this image has been freely released. The image is copyright regardless of the copyright status of the trophy. --MichaelMaggs 16:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
