Commons:Deletion requests/File:Zu Arthur Ceraj FF.jpg

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File:Zu Arthur Ceraj FF.jpg

Arthur Ceraj died in 1968, so it unlikely that Nxr-at is the author. Furthermore it is a passport photo from an atelier or similar! Ras67 (talk) 23:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ras67: No, but Nxr-at (sorry, I am also old enough ;-)) is also a older man and this photo is like written a photo made from his family. And so he has allthe rights on this photo ---- K@rl (talk) Mid Abstond hoidn xund bleibn 07:24, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

PS: Er hat dazu geschrieben Familienbesitz also keine URV- -- K@rl (talk) Mid Abstond hoidn xund bleibn 07:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

PS: Im Jahr 1968 habe ich auch schon 15 Jahre lang fotgrafiert, also 1968 liegt nicht im Altertum ;-) und Fotos für Ausweise konnte man auch noch selber machen, nicht so kompliziert wir heute. ---- K@rl (talk) Mid Abstond hoidn xund bleibn 08:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Ich will niemanden seine Fähigkeiten absprechen, aber dieses Foto ist sicher nicht zu Hause entstanden. Das wurde in einem Studio gemacht. Allerdings ist die jetzige Lizenz akzeptabel. Dies wäre alles nicht notwendig, wenn vor dem Hochladen die passende Lizenz gemäß dem Urheberrecht gewählt würde. Zur Anmerkung, nur weil etwas im „Familienbesitz“ ist, hat man noch lange keine Urheberrechte daran. Die dürften hier bei den Erben des Studio-Fotografen liegen, wenn er sich dazu bekannt hat, ansonsten halt eine pseudoanonyme Veröffentlichung. Viele Grüße --Ras67 (talk) 11:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

•  Keep PD-EU-no author disclosure. The image appears to be circa 1945 and all images would be PD up until 1952 when he would have been 63 years old. Unfortunately our rules about "author=" are not clear, the person who scans the original image is the author of the newly created derivative work, but we need to know who the original author was to determine the copyright status of the original image. Every new contributor makes the same mistake. I have complained for years to make the upload rules clearer for new contributors. Perhaps have them watch a video before their first upload. --RAN (talk) 09:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
•  Delete. Various searches indicate to me that this is not a notable individual. Just because the image is old does not mean it is in project scope. IronGargoyle (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

 Delete Per IronGargoyle. Out of scope and not notable. SCP-2000 14:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

PS: Relevant Wikidata deletion request. SCP-2000 14:59, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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Deleted: per the precautionary principle. It is definitely a professional photograph made in a studio, so not a Lichtbild (simple image, per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Austria), but a Lichtbildwerk protected for a term of 70 years pma. We're not told the name of the photographer, but that does not necessarily mean the photo is anonymous in a legal sense. For example, we don't know if the name is on the back or below the print as it is often the case with older studio photos. There is no definite date, but the rubber stamps with Bezirkshauptmannschaft tell me it's either from 1945 or later or from 1939 or earlier (because from 1939 to 1945, under German rule, these institutions were renamed to Landkreis). He looks quite young, and in the 1950s photos he looks much older. So the photo is probably from the early to mid-1930s or even the 1920s. All of which means that the photo is probably still protected by copyright and was therefore deleted. For undeletion, we'll have to fall back on {{PD-old-assumed}} with a term of 120 years after creation. Since we don't know this date, I'll take the 1939 date I mentioned. So the file can be restored in 2060. --Rosenzweig τ 17:42, 31 August 2022 (UTC)