Commons:Deletion requests/File:Zarfin et Sophie 1960.jpg

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File:Zarfin et Sophie 1960.jpg

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There is no mention of copyright or a license on the source site. These 1950s-1960s images, taken in France, certainly have copyrights. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let me explain. It is mentioned on the source site zarfin.com that "the information and documents presented at this site come from the artist’s family". It means that this picture was brought from the artist Faibich-Schraga Zarfin family archive. Ales-bank (talk) 10:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
First, there is the fact that having an image in a family archive does not necessarily mean that the family owns the copyright -- it is much more likely that the copyright is owned by the photographer or his heirs. So, a first step in clearing these for Commons would be to establish that the family actually owns the copyrights. That still would not tell us anything about the license status of the images -- did the family simply give some images to the site creator, who posted them without permission? Or, more likely, did the family give the images to the site creator with informal, perhaps oral, permission to use them on the site? It is unlikely that the family actually executed a formal transfer of copyright or a formal license which includes the right to sublicense. Unless we have clear evidence that the source has the right to sublicense the images for all uses, including commercial use, we cannot keep them on Commons. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your profound comment. In case with file File:Zarfin.jpg I've found information that picture was brought from the book 'Zarfin, sous la dir. d’Ernest Fraenkel, préface d’Etienne Souriau, Genève, Pierre Cailler, 1962' Ales-bank (talk) 10:39, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per discussion, no permission Krd 06:57, 1 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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