Commons:Deletion requests/File:World 1920 empires colonies territory.png

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The Ottoman Empire was never colonized because it was itself a colonial power. The Ottoman Empire was occupied by some countries after the lost World War I for a few years and during the Turkish War of Independence, but not colonized. Therefore, the color scheme on the map "Colonies in 1920" to the Ottoman Empire is wrong. 2003:EC:702:FE01:10EE:B58B:3EC1:F514 09:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you might be right, but the file desc reads "world empires and colonies 1920", so where is the problem? It's by the way always the wrong version. Feel free to upload a "correct" version using a different file name. We won't discuss here the correctness of that map and we won't delete it.
 Keep: Insufficient rationale. --Achim (talk) 19:36, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Achim, danke für Ihre Nachricht. Ich wollte nochmal anmerken, dass die Karte von 1920 nicht ganz korrekt ist, da das Osmanische Reich nach dem 1. Weltkrieg lediglich nur für kurze Zeit in der Mittelmeerregion, Südostanatolien und Ostanatolien besetzt wurde. Diese genannten Regionen wurden an keine Kolonialmacht angegliedert. Daher ist die farbliche Hinterlegung im Bezug zum Kolonialimus im Jahr 1920 nicht korrekt. Eine andere Karte kann ich leider nicht hochladen, da ich selber keine habe. Dennoch habe mich auf diversen Wikipedia Seiten in verschiedenen Sprache umgeschaut und musste feststellen, dass dies die einzige Karte ist, welche farblich nicht korrekt ist. Daher bitte ich um eine Berichtigung. Noch als Ergänzung. Der Hochlader "SuperSucker" hatte sogar im Jahr 2018 angegeben: "fix - by adding the Ottoman Empire before I considered some more of western Turkey under italian rule but I'm unsure so that I reverted; it remains unclear to me under whose rule north-western Turkey were in 1920". Daher war er sich beim Hochladen selber nicht sicher gewesen. Fakt ist, dass die Mittelmeerregion, Südostanatolien und Ostanatolien dem Osmanischen Reich noch angliedert waren.— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2003:EC:702:FE01:7D87:90CC:3E48:CF0B (talk) 21:42, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep: This file is in use on several Wikipedia pages, from af:Eerste Wêreldoorlog to sr:Други светски рат. Under COM:INUSE and COM:NPOV that makes it immune from deletion just for being inaccurate (if it even is inaccurate). If you think the map shouldn't be used on a Wikipedia, the correct place to correct that it on that Wikipedia. You can also upload a different version, either under the same name (but only if there's no objection; see COM:OVERWRITE) or under a different name, or edit the description as appropriate. --bjh21 (talk) 12:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I just logged in after weeks and found about this: I would argue to keep it as it's about colonial territories (its title agrees), not colonized territories. However, as I commented a year ago to my own uploaded version: I'm unsure about Turkey's history (Turkey is an Asian country, while I'm a European guy). All in all it looks fine. SuperSucker (talk) 18:56, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I ask you to make small changes to the card. Below this link you will find a correct map of Turkey 1920. https://www.welt.de/geschichte/article159307886/Dieses-Imperium-ist-Erdogans-grosses-Vorbild.html#cs-lazy-picture-placeholder-01c4eedaca.png Therefore, I ask you to adjust this map according to the true facts.

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The page you reported is news from 2016, right about when Turkey's policies were all over the place thus I would be careful trusting that map. Again, I'm no history expert, just a European average guy as hinted at the nomination discussion, but I believe I must have done my homework before modifying that map: look this wikipedia page for example it does show Italian possessed territories in west-Anatolia as European colonialism was well under way. Thus now please let's get on with other concerning matters, you can still revert if you believe it is the case (and I will think of re-reverting).. if ever.. it doesn't really matter as someone else will come and improve in the future, does it? So who cares, move on.

SuperSucker (talk) 20:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: no valid reason for deletion. In use. P 1 9 9   20:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]