Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tower of the Sun in Osaka.jpg

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File:Tower_of_the_Sun_in_Osaka.jpg

COM:FOP#Japan specifically mentions this structure as an "artistic work", and in Japan, photos of these may only be used non-commercially. fetchcomms☛ 05:33, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This file was nominated for deletion on 5 April 2010(2010-04-05), but was kept. Please consider the decision made in there. Laitr Keiows (talk) 08:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this discussion gives quite convincing arguments in favor of considering this particular work an artistic work. –Tryphon ^☂ 10:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as it is a building with at least two floors. This is not what someone thinks it may be or not, this is a fact. From wikipedia article: "In the tower, there were moving staircases surrounding the tree and a lift which enabled visitors to go to the upper floor." Architectural works (i.e., buildings) may be photographed and the photos may be reproduced for any purposes. Laitr Keiows (talk) 15:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The Statue of Liberty has a staircase and two floors too (the crown and the torch); it's still considered an artwork rather than a building. –Tryphon^☂ 19:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Statue of Liberty hasn't a full-blown museum inside of it. Laitr Keiows (talk) 14:46, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep(Following Japanese)-前回の議論同様、私は建物の大きさ、また名称に「塔」と記載がある以上建築物として捉えるべきと思われます。--ブレイズマン (talk) 20:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per above keep reasons and this DR Jcb (talk) 23:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Tower of the Sun in Osaka.jpg

Copyvio. Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle etc.

This art work of Taro Okamoto is copyrighted. The copyright holder is "The modern art atellier Inc.".
Even it is not so practical, this art work nominally has the function of tower = building. However, this fact doesn't deny the fact that this work is an artistic work.
In former DRs, some users pushed their own personal explanations on FOP#Japan to keep these images. But The Expo ’70 Commemorative Park prohibits taking photographs ans using by third party. The violation of copyright law will be subject to penalties. We have to read Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle again. Takabeg (talk) 05:46, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Question One of the links goes to Google Translate which misinterprets Japanese text as Chinese. What's the original source for that text? --Stefan4 (talk) 12:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As long as I understand, most of users who participated in precedent DRs didn't read this page. Takabeg (talk) 17:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is good that we agree that this is a building, because photographs of buildings are exempt from any restrictions. Specifically Freedom_of_panorama#Japan says that "architectural works (i.e., buildings) located in open places accessible to the public, such as streets and parks, may be photographed and the photos may be reproduced for any purposes". Please see the previous discussion for details on why these images were kept in 2010 and 2011. Not a single Japanese copyright-related law changed since then. Laitr Keiows (talk) 02:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Most of participants of Commons:Deletion requests/Images of 'Tower of the Sun'. don't know Japanese copyright law and didn't read this page. Takabeg (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ones who wrote Freedom_of_panorama#Japan definitely know Japanese copyright law and they say that Japanese copyright law states that "architectural works located in open places accessible to the public, such as streets and parks, may be photographed and the photos may be reproduced for any purposes". Laitr Keiows (talk) 05:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Something may look like a building in some ways, and still be classified legally as an "artistic work", not an "architectural work". Classification might be difficult in this case - except the decision has been made by a Japanese copyright lawyer using it as an example of an "artistic work" building. Case closed. Rd232 (talk) 07:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I probably would have come down on the side of keep until I read Commons_talk:Freedom_of_panorama/Archive_1#Hideyuki_Murata which Takabeg cites above. It is by a Japanese copyright lawyer and clearly names the Tower of the Sun as an example of a work that does not fall under the Japanese FOP exemption. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 12:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What that copyright lawyer said doesn't stand my argument that comes from the corresponding Wikipedia article: "In the tower, there were moving staircases surrounding the tree and a lift which enabled visitors to go to the upper floor." As you can find out here the tower has at least three floors with numerous elevators and a lift, which surely makes it a building. Laitr Keiows (talk) 08:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That article actually opens with Tower of the Sun ... is an artwork created by Japanese artist Tarō Okamoto. And you seem to be under the mistaken impression that an artwork with some qualities of a building cannot be an "artistic work". Per the Japanese copyright lawyer, it can. Rd232 (talk) 08:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The subject of the image is actually the example at COM:FOP#Japan (and it wasn't added recently, it's been there since at least January 2010). As Jim points out above, this is based on a Japanese copyright lawyer using that example in explaining Japanese FOP. This is a very easy decision. Rd232 (talk) 07:53, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment These files were nominated for deletion on 5 April 2010(2010-04-05), but were kept. Please consider the decision and arguments made in there. Laitr Keiows (talk) 08:06, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is sufficient doubt about the copyright status of these images (especially given the cited legal opinion from an expert). Consequently the precautionary principle should be applied. QU ^TalkQu 08:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All Wikipedias with articles about the work claim that it is an artwork: "The Tower of the Sun (
太陽の塔
Taiyō no Tō?) is an artwork created by Japanese artist Tarō Okamoto." "
太陽の塔（たいようのとう）は、1970年に大阪府吹田市で開催された日本万国博覧会（EXPO'70・大阪万博）の会場に、芸術家の岡本太郎が制作した芸術作品であり建造物である。
" "Tower of the Sun er et kunstverk laget av den japanske kunstneren Taro Okamoto og ble plassert i Suita i Osaka i Japan." "Tower of the Sun ((Japansk) 太陽の塔 Taiyō no Tō) er et kunstværk lavet af den japanske kunstner Taro Okamoto og er placeret i Osaka, Japan." "La Torre del Sol (太陽の塔 Taiyō no Tou?) es una escultura creada por el artista japonés Tarō Okamoto." (sculptures are artworks by definition) --Stefan4 (talk) 12:50, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am currently working to get a permission to use these images freely from The Modern Art Atellier Inc. Please delay deleting this images. Laitr Keiows (talk) 05:20, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment No reply from The Modern Art Atellier yet. Meantime I marked my own images and one older one with [[:Template:Fair use delete|{{uncertain status under COM:FOP#Japan}}]] Laitr Keiows (talk) 03:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my original nomination archived above. This was used as an example of unacceptable content in COM:FOP, so, yeah. ←fetch comms 14:31, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as per above discussion whilst also taking into account Commons_talk:Freedom_of_panorama/Archive_1#Hideyuki_Murata. russavia (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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