Commons:Deletion requests/File:The Offspring1.jpg

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File:The_Offspring1.jpg

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 Delete: no permission for video-screen-content, 3rd-party Nyks (talk) 16:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Uploader not notified. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now he got notified. But, its a flickr-image, and there is really no hope, that the fotographer of this imgage is the copyright-holder for the official video-camera-images from the festival-hoster. --Nyks (talk) 15:08, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just a live feed, not a work, not protected by copyright. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep The screen inclusion is de minimis and being a live projection also does not count as a fixed work such as would give rise to copyright protection (international treaties only protect unfixed musical works [to prevent bootlegs from being produced] and do not protect unfixed visual displays.) -Nard the Bard 15:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete If there's a VCR or the like in between there, it's a fixed work. If there's a five second delay to stop streakers and Janet Jackson, then it's a fixed work. I find the odds that it's not fixed to be unlikely; why wouldn't you, in the 21st century, make a permanent copy of a video stream? I furthermore don't see it as de minimis; after I cut off the backs of heads, random trees, sky, half a billboard or something, that's about all that's left. (I've added annotations to the picture to illustrate the point.)--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're missing the point. It's a photo of a concert. An outdoor concert. With other people there. All of the stuff you cut out is part of the experience of being there. The screen is but a de minimis part of what the picture conveys. -Nard the Bard 21:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As a general rule, whatever is at the center of a photo, is the focus of the photo and hence isn't de minimis. The two diagonals of this photo cross right at the top of that screen. Secondly, the file is named The Offspring1.jpg, the description is "The Offspring at Leeds Festival in 2004." and the categories are Punk rock groups | The Offspring, but the only place I see anything pertaining to The Offspring is on that screen, which means to me that the uploader obviously didn't think that it was de minimis.--Prosfilaes (talk) 18:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The screen image looks awfully like the main subject of the photograph. --Simonxag (talk) 12:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Huib talk 15:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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