Commons:Deletion requests/File:Teacher writing on a Blackboard.jpg

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File:Teacher_writing_on_a_Blackboard.jpg

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Was marked for speedy deletion, the reason given was:

I am the copyright holder and the posting of this on Wikimedia Commons violates the copyright. I am requesting a speedy deletion. Tostie14 (talk) 03:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note this file has been reviewed by FlickreviewR in 2007. Regards, →Na·gy 12:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is some more information on the file, supplied by User:JesseW. This is from an independent movie Yellow Lights by Tostie14. It is a good image, in use on 35 pages in 22 wikipedias.  Keep /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why does it matter if it is a good image if I am requesting it be deleted and all usages removed? Tostie14 (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You had released it on a free license. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The fact it is a good images does not mean anything. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 22:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As was noted on the entry for this photo, there was a personality rights warning. The reason I have changed the license on this photo and requesting it be taken down is because the subject of the photo (the teacher) is requesting that all uses of it be removed. 98.176.40.91 07:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has been tagged speedy again[1]. --Túrelio (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by Zirland: In category Other speedy deletions; no permission


File:Teacher_writing_on_a_Blackboard.jpg

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For privacy reason; request by photographer and depicted person, who seems to be a real teacher at a real school. Depicted person is clearly identifiable and, as per photographer and original requester[2], has never signed a model release. -- Túrelio (talk) 09:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete, though it is a great shot and as of yet we don't have optimal replacement images (File:Chelsea, England, Spelling Lesson, 1912.JPG, File:031118-F-0000S-008.jpg, File:Landaff 1940s.jpg, File:Aschiana in Mazar-e-Sharif.jpg). It is not that much in use anyway. --Túrelio (talk) 09:43, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
@Pieter, this DR is not about copyright/license. It is all about an individual that does not want her fully identifiable image distributed all around. Obviously the Flickr uploader and/or photographer wasn't fully aware of that initially. Though we don’t know all the details, a teacher is not an actor, who would have to tolerate a bit more publicity. Contrary to other cases, the image has been removed from our source (Flickr). This suggests that the request is honest. Anyway, in the very unlikely case that this request wasn’t for the declared personal reason, but to allow full commercial exploition, we would be able to restore the image, as we have a positive Flickreview report. Taken together this is not (or less) about law, but about courtesy against another human being. And, yes, it is sad to loose this image. --Túrelio (talk) 10:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Commons has gazillions of images without a model release - it is not a reason to delete. This image was used in 35 pages in 22 wikipedias before it was deleted out of process. It is an excellent photo, with proper release of copyright by the author. The subject is in a movie, and that film has not been withdrawn as far as I can see. And indeed, the photo is shown here, where the subject is identified by name. And this photo is still avaliable on a free license on Flickr. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's indeed a little bit strange. Thanks for the thorough research. --Túrelio (talk) 11:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 DeleteIf you would like the full history of how this photo ended up here, I will provide it. I am an Olin College professor, and this is a photo of me, taken while I was an extra in a student-produced film at Olin College. The photo was taken by our college photographer, and was not the first time he had taken photos during a student activity. His photos belong to the college and in the past were used only for college publications. This is the expectation I had when the photos were taken. The student film producer posted many of the photos on Flickr on a free license. I was not aware of this until I saw this picture being used in an ad that I saw on Facebook. Since then, I asked the student film producer to remove the permissions on Flickr, and I have attempted to have the photo deleted from as many sites as I could. I did not realize that it appeared on Wikipedia until just a few months ago, and realized the matter was even more urgent when I saw my photo in a Wisconsin political ad, clearly taken from Wikipedia. I did not sign a model release and would prefer that the clearly recognizable image of me not be used. It seems easy enough to make the decision to delete it from Wikimedia Commons. I realize that I may never be able to track down every last usage of this photo on the web, but if it is deleted from here, that will help matters greatly. I apologize if I am not following the correct format to comment here, but I only created an account to be able to explain the situation.Professicat (talk) 07:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to en:Personality rights#United States, Wisconsin adopted a statute about personality rights; you might be able to sue them for damages for the political ad. And indeed, a TinEye search shows that your image is widely used. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 09:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, ask Pieter and you surely get an unexpected, but substantiated proposal ;-). However, since we now know the background history, we should really delete the image to avoid further damage to the depicted Lady. --Túrelio (talk) 09:59, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This photo may have to be removed because it lacks permission by the college photographer, Michael Maloney (college photostream on Flickr). It seems likely that it is a work for hire, that the college owns the rights, and that Tostie did not have the right to give it a free license on Flickr.  Delete /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Yes, the file is good. And yes, free licenses are nor revokeable. But, per the concerns raised above (questionable copyright holder, personallity rights, ...) we can't be sure, the file is free enough to keep it. abf «Cabale!» 10:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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