Commons:Deletion requests/File:Superman-fleischer.jpg
The discussion at Commons:Deletion_requests/File:"Appreciate_America._Come_On_Gang._All_Out_for_Uncle_Sam"_(Mickey_Mouse)"_-_NARA_-_513869.tif was clear that there is a visual copyright in distinctive characters and that where later works apparently enter into the public domain, there is still a derivative copyright on those elements. Although there are numerous "comic book" sources that state that these cartoons are "public domain" - there are no good legal sources that state that. Only those elements of these cartoons that are not derivative of the superman comic books are PD - and that does not include Superman, so these cartoons should be deleted. Ajbp (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Note that this is equally applicable to all of the other images in Category:PD_Cartoon_-_Superman and so this should be considered a meta discussion on all of those images. Ajbp (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Uh, surely you meant to nominate the file for deletion, not its talk page? Dcoetzee (talk) 10:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I assumed so and so edited the link and DR page. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Based on the cited precedent, this and most of Category:PD Cartoon - Superman should be deleted File:Arcticgiant2.JPG and File:Superman-mechanical-monster.jpg are the only files there that are totally in the clear - containing only characters created by Fleischer studios. - J Greb (talk) 19:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- comment: See also the 2007/2008 Commons:Deletion requests/Cartoons. --Bensin (talk) 06:11, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Deleted: Per discussion, loss of copyright applies to film, not to copyrighted character depicted. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 04:41, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
