Commons:Deletion requests/File:Stundenbuch.jpg

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Walter Tiemann died 1951, by that it will be in PD in 2022 Goesseln (talk) 16:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The file was uploaded with the claim that the author of the book (Rainer Maria Rilke, 1875-1926) holds the copyright, and that it was published in 1899. I assume the gounds for this dispute are that you believe that 1) the illustrator was Walter Tiemann, 2) Tiemann died in 1951, 3) that the illustration was not a work for hire where the rights were transferred, and 4) that the work was published in 1920. Did I summarise that correctly? --Krinkle 17:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
almost
today I ordered the first edition of 1905 in the UB Tübingen (signature : Dk XI 4409 ca)
@4: the book is from 1905
@1, 3: de:Walter Tiemann is mentioned in the book as the creator of the cover, title and some more
see the text of 1905 at another place in the edition of 1918: https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Seite:Das_Stundenbuch_%28Rilke%29_108.jpg
--Goesseln (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per Walter Tiemann's year of death 1951. According to German copyright law, the duration of copyright is always for 70 years after the year in which the person who created the work died; neither the date of first publication nor any rights transfers or "work for hire" change that. German copyright law has the concept that the "Urheberrecht" and thus the duration of protection as such always remains bound to the person who created the work, even if made for hire, and even if the full rights of use were transferred. Undelete in 2022. --Gestumblindi (talk) 11:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Undeleted as Walter Tiemann works are now in Public Domain. Platonides (talk) 23:42, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]