Commons:Deletion requests/File:Stellvertretender Ministerpräsident Ferdinand Nigg.jpg

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Lacks a license for home country. Even if we added {{PD-Liechtenstein-old-unknown}}, it fails this clause: Note that this applies only if a reliable source is cited to indicate that the author is not publicly known; just not knowing who the author is not enough to qualify the image as public domain. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Historisches Lexikon extracts files from the Liechtenstein national archives and attributes credit where it available as per many of their other images. If the image does not provide credit on it, then it is not known. Liechtenstein law does not require a burden of proof. TheBritinator (talk) 12:09, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep I don't think the reliable source part is part of Commons policy or their law. Just that the author can't be "generally known". The source of this is the state archives, with an explicit credit to them, so they apparently did not name a photographer when giving it out. I'm fine with assuming "unknown" (which their law uses, not "anonymous"). If this was published in 1925, it should be fine. However, I'm not sure I see a clause in their law about limiting unpublished works (i.e. 70 years from creation if not published in that time). So if this was a long-unpublished work, there may be an issue. Their law looks like it conforms to EU principles in general, but maybe not all the details like that, which would have removed all doubt. So I guess the question is how the archives got it -- may have been considered published at the time of donation if not before. I'm not sure the possibility of being unpublished until recently is a significant doubt at this point, but I think that would be the only reason to delete. Carl Lindberg (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: The Liechtenstein National Archives can be considered a reliable source, even if the name of the photographer isn't known. With these conditions in mind, the photo being first published in 1925 puts it in the public domain. ReneeWrites (talk) 12:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]