Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sodium carbonate.svg

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Image is wrong, the electrons should not be delocalized. Correct structure can be seen here http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=10340 Götz (talk) 02:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

There are already two files with the correct structure, [1] and [2]. --Götz (talk) 03:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Please provide a rationale. PubChem is certainly not a reference here. --Leyo 09:01, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

 Delete The electrons probably are actually delocalized on en:Category:Carbonate ion in general, and in agreement with various other cited analytical images in Category:Sodium carbonate. And it's also true that sometimes/often it's not drawn that way, which is also acceptable in some contexts, as in the proposed replacements. However, if they are delocalized, the charge must be –2/3 on each of the three O, not –1 (the total carbonate must be –2). DMacks (talk) 14:20, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

 Info May I ask why w:PubChem is not a valid reference? Here are other references, ChemSpider (from the w:Royal Society of Chemistry), ChEBI, Chemical Abstracts Service (from the w:American Chemical Society). In all these it can be seen that the electrons are not delocalized. --Götz (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

 I withdraw my nomination The file is now fixed, based on [3] without the implicit electrons. --Götz (talk) 19:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Concur that it's now fixed and is now a non-redundant high-quality image usable in some contexts. DMacks (talk) 03:10, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

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Kept: Per discussion. Leyo 18:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)