Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sign from Noahs Ark Zoo Farm.jpg
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COM:DERIV, a photograph of a museum exhibit that includes original drawings, photography and text. Lord Belbury (talk) 19:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- This photograph should be Retained, as COM:DERIV does not apply to photographs of copyright material that is on display in publicly-accessed places as this is. Otherwise no photos of Banksy artworks on publicly-accessed walls could be used in Wikipedia which is clearly not the case. Peteinterpol (talk) 08:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Does that go for displays inside museums, which is what this one looks to be? I'd expect to see a lot more diagrams and portraits on Commons taken from museum and gallery displays, if that were the case. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- A quick check indicates there are many such photographs relating to museums such as the British Museum. And working through the flowchart at COM:DERIV establishes that this photograph does not fall foul of it. It has the originator's permission and the subject of the photo is freely available for the public to view. It would truly be stretching COM:DERIV for this to be seen to require deletion, and would have a significant impact on many photos here. Peteinterpol (talk) 13:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- While trying to puzzle out what COM:DERIV does and doesn't count as a "public place", I see that COM:FOP United Kingdom actually suggests that freedom of panorama "does not apply to graphic works - such as a mural or poster - even if they are permanently located in a public place" and says that they cannot be uploaded to Commons.
- I can't find any obvious examples of explanatory museum illustration in the British Museum category, where the photo isn't of a historical item or painting on display, but is (like the image under discussion here) a diagram, map or illustration that has been created for the museum, by an artist who is likely still alive. --Lord Belbury (talk) 18:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have to respectfully disagree. If you search for "information sign" in Wikimedia Commons there are countless such examples such as this one:
- If this photograph is deleted, it has profound implications for thousands of such photographs of signs within museums that should also be deleted.
- And per COM:De minimis, suggestions that this should be deleted focus on a level of technical triviality that it is not intended for us to be involved in in terms of copyright adherence. Peteinterpol (talk) 09:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Deleted - According to Template:FoP-UK, Freedom of panorama does not exist in UK for two-dimensional graphic works such as posters or murals. This image clearly is a poster. I do not understand on which basis images of murals by Banksy in UK can be maintained (in other countries it may be possible, FoP is different everywhere). In addition, in this particular case, the poster is a composite work of possibly other copyrighted elements. Elly (talk) 21:09, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- Various discussions have been devoted to Banksy, the main difference with a "normal" mural is that his work is illegal graffiti, read for instance Commons:Deletion requests/Banksy graffiti. Elly (talk) 21:22, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
