Commons:Deletion requests/File:SiemensBerlinTurbine.jpg
I am sorry but it looks like this image is actually from Siemens and has been carelessly re-licensed as if it was their own work by the Flickr account holder. This is part of a series which has been widely reproduced around the web (eg. here), often credited to Siemens. It is consistent with corporate imagery by Siemens. The EXIF info reflects this also. Ariadacapo (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
No, the Flickr account holder seems credible. It is a professional association called Arbeitgeberverband Gesamtmetall and obviously produces high quality images for the industry. Therefore the foto of the Siemens turbine seems to have a valid commons license. Lear 21 (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Here is the source photo. The Flickr account holder just took it from there and published it as theirs on Flickr. Ariadacapo (talk) 10:59, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
The Arbeitgeberverband Gesamtmetall is an industry association and obviously acts with internal photographers. They most likely have an agreement to use the fotos on flickr. And there is no proof that the Arbeitgeberverband Gesamtmetall was not the original copyright holder. Lear 21 (talk) 08:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Siemens is even holding the chair of the Berlin section of Arbeitgeberverband Gesamtmetall. So I'm for keeping it.--Sanandros (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- What is the rationale here? Gesamtmetall organized a photo session on a Siemens work site, published the photo under CC-by on Flickr with Siemens copyright EXIF tag, and then the Siemens (350k employees) public relations department copied it back over to their website under their own terms? Or, there’s an agreement between the two so that Gesamtmetall can give away those photos without credit under CC-BY? I’m all for having those (breathtaking!) photos here on Commons, but given the track record of Siemens (3 photos on Commons in 2005) I think we need more than wild guesses to make sure we don’t further reproduce what looks like an ordinary case of license laundering. Ariadacapo (talk) 07:44, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Comment In the EXIFs of this image we can read "Siemens press photos may only be used for editorial purposes. The copyrights belong to Siemens AG, Munich/Berlin, and remain undiminished if the pictures are incorporated into an archive, either electronically or manually. Pictures used for editorial purp" (EXIFs seen with this tool), Siemens clearly claim the rights of this photos, and it is quite unclear if the association Gesamtmetall, owner of the Flickr account, has the necessary rights or authorizations to give this license. Christian Ferrer (talk) 05:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Deleted: per nominatin - unclear copyright statut. --Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:01, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
