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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
SVG was also uploaded today, we only need the superior format. Fry1989 eh? 00:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- That's hardly a reason to delete this. This is the original version and it is better to keep for future reference in case the SVG is incorrectly rendered. Besides, I haven't read anything about it not being allowed and the SVG is just a derivative and someone else's work. --User 50 (talk) 06:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's a perfectly good reason. When we have an SVG image and a PNG is uploaded later, it's almost always deleted. In this case while the PNG was uploaded first, it was only a matter of hours. We have a good SVG, we don't need a scaled down dupe. Fry1989 eh? 00:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- It was transferred from Wikipedia and was there for a long time... I'm just saying that the government's official rendering should be kept because it is the original one, the one that was used as a reference to make the SVG. You don't just make a copy and delete the original. Also, if you search you will find many files here where the original PNG version is kept. --User 50 (talk) 03:36, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- And you will find just as many, if not more, where the PNG was deleted. Fry1989 eh? 03:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- So I suppose everything in Category:Vector version available should be deleted? I suppose Commons talk:Superseded images policy is irrelevant? What makes this copy superior and what is the rationale in deleting a file because an SVG version is available?
- And you will find just as many, if not more, where the PNG was deleted. Fry1989 eh? 03:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- It was transferred from Wikipedia and was there for a long time... I'm just saying that the government's official rendering should be kept because it is the original one, the one that was used as a reference to make the SVG. You don't just make a copy and delete the original. Also, if you search you will find many files here where the original PNG version is kept. --User 50 (talk) 03:36, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- It's a perfectly good reason. When we have an SVG image and a PNG is uploaded later, it's almost always deleted. In this case while the PNG was uploaded first, it was only a matter of hours. We have a good SVG, we don't need a scaled down dupe. Fry1989 eh? 00:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- That's hardly a reason to delete this. This is the original version and it is better to keep for future reference in case the SVG is incorrectly rendered. Besides, I haven't read anything about it not being allowed and the SVG is just a derivative and someone else's work. --User 50 (talk) 06:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I like this: "... however, there is no valid rationale for deleting one file, merely because another, simillar but non-identical file [superceded] exists, & is considered by some users to be superior in some ways and/or for some uses.
a "superceded" (non-identical) file should only be deleted when there are other, valid rationale(s) for the deletion." --User 50 (talk) 03:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- That's not what I said at all and you know it. If an SVG exists and a duplicate in a inferior format is uploaded at a later date, it's almost always deleted. This file and it's SVG superior are only separated by about 10 minutes. There's no reason to keep it when we have the SVG as well. If you can't argue based on that and have to twist things, you have no argument at all. Fry1989 eh? 04:20, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- It was on wikipedia for far longer (2011 I believe)... The SVG is only a few weeks old, I just moved both recently to commons. There is also no reason to delete it. A repository of images can't have the original file and its SVG derivative? O.o Where is the harm in that? What other reasons are there to delete this other than "an SVG version exists"? --User 50 (talk) 04:31, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't care where it was! I'm talking about Commons and Commons alone. Fry1989 eh? 04:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Just tell me if a supposedly superior alternative format warrants deletion of another format with the argument of "we only need the superior format". If I uploaded a picture and a touched up one. Should the original be automatically deleted? and another thing I wasn't aware that two formats cannot co-exist here, just as any unused images should be deleted because a superior picture exists and "we only need the superior picture" --User 50 (talk) 04:47, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Again, if you can not argue against my nomination without twisting things around from their original context, you have no argument at all. Fry1989 eh? 17:37, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I still don't get what I'm "twisting", you stated "SVG was also uploaded today, we only need the superior format." That is not a rationale for deleting. Nowhere have I have read that this isn't allowed. You still haven't answered my question on what other reasons warrants its deletion and you accuse me of having no arguments. All I'm saying is that the fact there is an SVG DOES NOT mean the original file that was uploaded should be deleted because "we only need the superior format" which is completely debatable. An alternative file (SVG, few weeks old) and its original file (PNG, years old) can co-exist thats why those "Vector version available" templates exist where the original file and its history can be preserved. Again, I leave this with my "no arguments" --User 50 (talk) 02:58, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Again, if you can not argue against my nomination without twisting things around from their original context, you have no argument at all. Fry1989 eh? 17:37, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Just tell me if a supposedly superior alternative format warrants deletion of another format with the argument of "we only need the superior format". If I uploaded a picture and a touched up one. Should the original be automatically deleted? and another thing I wasn't aware that two formats cannot co-exist here, just as any unused images should be deleted because a superior picture exists and "we only need the superior picture" --User 50 (talk) 04:47, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't care where it was! I'm talking about Commons and Commons alone. Fry1989 eh? 04:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- It was on wikipedia for far longer (2011 I believe)... The SVG is only a few weeks old, I just moved both recently to commons. There is also no reason to delete it. A repository of images can't have the original file and its SVG derivative? O.o Where is the harm in that? What other reasons are there to delete this other than "an SVG version exists"? --User 50 (talk) 04:31, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- If I've told you once, I've told you a hundred times, it is a perfectly valid reason for deletion and is used all the time. Fry1989 eh? 04:16, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: FASTILY 07:03, 11 October 2013 (UTC)