Commons:Deletion requests/File:Satyricon download2.jpg

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Most of the image consists of the stage-design (definitely not ineligible) and the screenshot of the large monitor for which the copyright owner is the camera men. -- Cecil (talk) 18:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete I'd forget the stage design, the picture isn't of that, but the screenshot is at least as important as the people in the current composition. The picture would be OK if you cropped it down to remove the screenshot and focus on the performers. --Simonxag (talk) 01:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I usually see the stage design as a unavoidable accessory, but in this case the real musicians are such a small part of the image that the design got pretty dominating (red). When first opening the image I had to look twice to see if there are people on the stage. Cropping down would be ok but the fotographer was too far away to leave something recognizable while we have good pics of Satyr and his buddys (and I would have some more in my upload queue if I ever manage to get to it (helpers welcome)). -- Cecil (talk) 08:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep La imagen fue subida de Flickr y fue ratificada, así que por esa razón creo que no debe ser borrada pues no incumple nada. La imagen forma parte en el artículo en español de la banda y queda perfectamente, así que pido que no sea borrada pues es muy difícil encontrar este tipo de fotos para subir a Commons. Además lo importante no es la banda en sí, sino el concierto en general.--Progenie of the great apocalypse2 (talk) 18:40, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just because something on Flickr is marked under a free licence it does not need to be under a free licence in reality. People there just upload their pics and most don't think or know about licences at all. You can find there thausands of unfree images under free licences. Beeing wrongly marked free on Flickr is no excuse to transfer them to Commons. Here we have a different project scope and images have to be free. But yes, I have already noticed that this does not really matter to you. Lots of your uploads are copyright violations and/or have wrong licences. -- Cecil (talk) 16:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Lo que sucede en la foto de Satyricon sucede también en esta foto ¿por qué no la borras también?
Si subo fotos que supuestamente tienen derechos de autor es porque no sé inglés y las subí para enriquecer un poco más Wikipedia--Progenie of the great apocalypse2 (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You are always free to make a deletion request if you see an image where you have doubts. But keeping one image because there is another is no argument at all. In this case the other pic now also has a deletion request. -- Cecil (talk) 00:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Entonces, ¿qué hay que hacer? ¿Borrar la foto o cortarla? Yo no sé cortar una imagen de Commons.--Progenie of the great apocalypse2 (talk) 20:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You can try to crop the image somewhere between the heads of the musicians and the Kerrang-sign, but seeing its quality it will not leave much good to look at. There is a re-uploading function (on the image page in the lower third of the page) you could use for the re-upload of the cropped version. I can't delete the file myself, since I am the deletion nominator. Other possiblity: If you want I could upload ~70 images of a Satyricon show on Flickr, which I haven't yet filtered through to decide which ones are good enough for Commons (same for about 30 other metal-bands like Immortal, Neurosis, Sabaton, Suicidal Tendencies, Candlemass, ....). You can then decide which one you would like to have transferred to Commons, but you would have let me do the transfer because since I don't have a pro-account at Flickr I can't upload the full resolution file there. The collection contains a few images where you can see all the members except the drummer. -- Cecil (talk) 01:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I think the image should be deleted, because cropped not serve too. I need a photo of Satyricon of the year 2006, but there are other image. If you can upload more photos, I will be thankful. I will try to upload more photos of the Immortal´s show in Metalway.--Progenie of the great apocalypse2 (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In 2006 I lived somewhere in the middle of nowhere, so no concerts. I just have Satyricon pics form 2007 (those uploads in the Satyricon-category with Metalcamp in their name) and from 2008 (check here if you like a few and notify me there or on my talk page). -- Cecil (talk) 07:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Seems likely to be mostly copyrighted material, flickr-washing notwithstanding, and other material is available (thanks to Cecil's kind offers) ++Lar: t/c 18:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]