Commons:Deletion requests/File:Salmorramell (brinicle).png

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File:Salmorramell (brinicle).png

Misleadingly photorealistic AI-generated image where the concept depicted in BBC footage at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00l817b has been reduced to a single sentence (one thin and vertical stalactite in the antarctic ocean coming from the surface until touches and freezes the oceanic bottom, photorealistic) and then re-expanded into an image. The original footage does not look this much like a stalactite, nor is the sea bed completely frozen. Belbury (talk) 14:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose the description of the file (in my language, Catalan), explicitly states that it is a recreation based on a real footage and allows the reader to contrast and verify it against the reliable source. Additionally, it refers to the AI software used, and includes the complete prompt so that other users can try it or revise it as well. Furthermore, its usage in the Catalan Wikipedia article Estalactita de gel defines well the scope of the image as a visual support, given the lack of free licensed multimedia content regarding the topic. In the article, I even referred again to the BBC footage. More to add: just check File:BRINICLE FORMATION nixsyt.gif. Is it absolutely trusworthy when compared to the real video? Of course not, because it is a pedagogical infographic that acts a mere simplification and that, besides, cites as the sixth point "(6) It will continue to accumulate ice as surrounding water freezes. The brine will travel along the seafloor in a down-slope direction." Therefore yes, the empirical phenomenon is that the brinicle triggers a later stage in which the sea bed increasingly gets completely frozen in the surrounding area. Belbury: I wonder whether you have ever tried to create AI images for basic scientific approaches or for mythological recreations that go beyond the classical English-speaking scope of these applications. If you have, you will surely have detected that you need to adapt the descriptions to match the expected content. As an example, the Andorran mythological figure Tamarro: the prompt I used in Midjourney was "a friendly brown monster, similar to Mr Meeseeks [...]". Yes, similar to Mr. Meeseeks, which has nothing to do but managed to draw a very close result. That is, you must trial and error several attempts to get the software closer to your idea. All in all: 1) the file is not misleading because it contents all transparency to to the reader, 2) its only usage in an article includes again the AI description and 3) the same articles also includes a thoroughly translated and describe infographic (File:Formació d'un salmorramell.gif) to back up the image. No doubt that whenever there is a free-licensed brinicle here in Commons, I'll be the first one to vote this file for deletion too. Xavier D. (Messages) 14:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

File:BRINICLE FORMATION nixsyt.gif is very clearly a simplified diagram. The file here is presenting itself as a "photorealistic" depiction of something, giving the impression that it's a genuine photo when it is not.

My main concerns in the accuracy are that this image looks like a solid icicle spike which has formed in air and then been dipped into water, where the BBC version is a lot more translucent and spiralling, as you would expect for an ice structure forming underwater; and although a brinicle does eventually fuse with and freeze a larger portion of the sea bed, in this image only the tip is touching.

I have used text-to-image AIs and do appreciate that it is very difficult to get them to accurately depict what the user has in mind! Belbury (talk) 15:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

 Delete AI shouldn’t be used to illustrate scientific concepts; most humans aren’t even cut out for that Dronebogus (talk) 12:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

 Delete Using this as a scientific illustration will give the impression it is real. Not sure how many examples of this the AI would be drawing off aside from the Frozen Planet documentary either. CMD (talk) 08:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Deleted: per nomination and consensus. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:44, 6 September 2024 (UTC)