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This person has made herself an "article" at userpage in EN:WP, around this image. I have proposed the deletion of this kind of images used to create so-called "semi-articles" in English, Hindi, Bahasa Indonesia and other language Wikipedias, some of which have rare names for me to be able to remember, and they were all deleted. For the first time in this process the person who has made herself a self-service article in a Wikipedia is not carrying clothes (well, except some footwear). I am all ears to objections as I gather being naked is taken as some sort of "basis" for scope in Commons by quite a number of people. What is the difference of this use (or abuse) of Commons from the article Kumar Patel Cheevat makes for himself in userspace, and as some of the best computer people come from the Subcontinent, makes it better (and still gets deleted)? E4024 (talk) 04:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Keep There is no article. There is a user page. Very different. Nothing wrong with nudity unless your mind is evil. As for other "articles", please read en:WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and en:WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Rodhullandemu (talk) 06:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Admin Rodhullandemu, make sure I read more that you can imagine. Having said that, possibly you did not read very carefully what I wrote: I was speaking about "so-called self-made articles in userpage", something very common. Certainly you did not close my DRs on similar cases, then ask other admins, User:Turelio or User:Taivo perhaps... When I said "I do not even remember the names of (Wikipedias)" I was referring to a concrete case where many young people opened a "userpage" with their pictures. Except one, who had made several other edits here and there, they were all deleted. I continue to DR and get deleted "this" kind of images used for vanity. The people in the images being dressed up, naked or "partially nude" (something I could never understand) is not of importance to me. Everybody is free to wear what they wish, some may go around only in shoes or eye-glasses if they so wish. This user has also made edits and many more than the youngster I referred above; so the closing admin may choose to keep the file. I will not mind. Anyhow, to make it clear again, what I object to is vanity and not nudity; examples are too many. BTW your reference to "evil mind" is a personal attack. If you continued to be an admin and someone told me something like that, I would expect an administrative action from you towards that user... I regret this situation in Commons. Maybe I should not have returned. --E4024 (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am no longer an Admin, for some strange reason. However, I did read your request very carefully, as I always do, despite the difficulty I had in understanding your somewhat discursive argument and disentangling the relevant from the irrelevant. I followed the links, as I always do, to see where and how the file is being used. I find it inoffensive. That's my taste. Yours obviously differs. I wasn't calling you evil. Rationally, there should be nothing wrong with a nude person, but some people see some religious objection, despite, say, the Sistine Chapel being festooned with paintings of naked children. As for vanity, it may be deprecated in some places, but we tolerate images of contributors on their own pages. By all means complain if you think a general comment applies to you personally. Of course by doing that, you accept it and admit to being intolerant of nudity, but that is not my problem, nor, in my experience, anyone else's. Evening. Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Regular users can have personal photos on their userpage. Raquel Baranow is an established user in en.wiki, she participates in talkpage discussions, she reverts vandalism and so on. The file is used and in scope. Taivo (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am no longer an Admin, for some strange reason. However, I did read your request very carefully, as I always do, despite the difficulty I had in understanding your somewhat discursive argument and disentangling the relevant from the irrelevant. I followed the links, as I always do, to see where and how the file is being used. I find it inoffensive. That's my taste. Yours obviously differs. I wasn't calling you evil. Rationally, there should be nothing wrong with a nude person, but some people see some religious objection, despite, say, the Sistine Chapel being festooned with paintings of naked children. As for vanity, it may be deprecated in some places, but we tolerate images of contributors on their own pages. By all means complain if you think a general comment applies to you personally. Of course by doing that, you accept it and admit to being intolerant of nudity, but that is not my problem, nor, in my experience, anyone else's. Evening. Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Admin Rodhullandemu, make sure I read more that you can imagine. Having said that, possibly you did not read very carefully what I wrote: I was speaking about "so-called self-made articles in userpage", something very common. Certainly you did not close my DRs on similar cases, then ask other admins, User:Turelio or User:Taivo perhaps... When I said "I do not even remember the names of (Wikipedias)" I was referring to a concrete case where many young people opened a "userpage" with their pictures. Except one, who had made several other edits here and there, they were all deleted. I continue to DR and get deleted "this" kind of images used for vanity. The people in the images being dressed up, naked or "partially nude" (something I could never understand) is not of importance to me. Everybody is free to wear what they wish, some may go around only in shoes or eye-glasses if they so wish. This user has also made edits and many more than the youngster I referred above; so the closing admin may choose to keep the file. I will not mind. Anyhow, to make it clear again, what I object to is vanity and not nudity; examples are too many. BTW your reference to "evil mind" is a personal attack. If you continued to be an admin and someone told me something like that, I would expect an administrative action from you towards that user... I regret this situation in Commons. Maybe I should not have returned. --E4024 (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Kept: as long as the user is active enough in en.wiki (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Raquel_Baranow), she can have a nude picture of herself at her userpage if she wants so. --Andrei Romanenko (talk) 17:17, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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