Commons:Deletion requests/File:Popepiusx.jpg
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Claimed to be PD-old but there is no source and thus no evidence that the creator died in 1939 or earlier to qualify for PD-old. howcheng {chat} 17:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Keep Looks like {{PD-anon-70}} would be more appropriate. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 20:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- The problem being that there's no way to know if it's anonymously created or not because there's no source. howcheng {chat} 21:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Tineye finds it in seven places, several of which are linked to the Commons image. None of them have a credit or a copyright. The Vatican web site uses a different photo. Does anyone actually know the Vatican copyright rules? Although there's some risk, I'd be inclined to keep it, on the grounds that if the photographer were 40 when the picture was taken, and died before age 70 (long after the expectation then), it would 70 years since death. I agree with Howcheng that {{PD-anon-70}} is not appropriate because it's almost certainly not anonymous. Whoever has the original photo knows who took it, because it almost certainly has a professional photographer's stamp on the back.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 17:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- The only thing that matters is whether it was published with the name of the photographer, which would not have been common at the time. Of File:PiusX, Bain.jpg, NARA has the negative, but even in that case, the photographer is unknown. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
- Vatican rules are that where the Vatican doesn't have a rule, the Italian rule applies. And the only Vatican rule on copyright is that anything written by the Pope is perpetually copyrighted in the Vatican. So 70 years pma applies. Stifle (talk) 11:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Common practice or not, Pieter, we have no idea because there's no source. howcheng {chat} 16:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Delete No source, no Commons. ~ trialsanderrors (talk) 13:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Deleted, no source and thus no way to verify public domain status. Kameraad Pjotr 15:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
