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This file was initially tagged by 1997kB as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: https://www.noah-conference.com/wordpress/images/Payconiq.png
Could be TOO. Sanandros (talk) 21:33, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: I think this comes under COM:FU, and the licence information provided by user seems wrong also. 1997kB (talk) 03:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Four shades of pink and a broken infinite sign? Probably not covered by TOO. Image source: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.payconiq.customers and https://www.payconiq.be/nl/. It's an app for mobile payments so it's not very likely the user created it. Even if QY412 did, the copyright is probably with the payconiq company.I'll copyvio it again. W3ird N3rd (talk) 10:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Speedy delete: https://www.payconiq.be/nl/disclaimer/ explicitly mentions logos as part of their intellectual property and prohibits reuse without their consent. --HyperGaruda (talk) 22:21, 4 January 2018 (UTC)- Comment I'd say it's not copyrightable in the US. I don't know about Norwegian rules, though; the US tends to have a pretty high TOO for colored text like this. As for Payconiq's claims, well, they can make the claims, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in real life.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Prosfilaes: Payconiq was originally a financial app for Belgium. Their aim is to provide services in Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg. They have offices in all three countries. Their disclaimer states "Op deze site en op deze disclaimer is het Luxemburgs recht van toepassing.". ("Luxembourg law applies to this site and disclaimer") Commons:Threshold_of_originality does not list Luxembourg. In case some people didn't notice because of their display settings: the background has several shades of pink. WhatTheFont suggests https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typeotones/arboria/black/ for the font, which looks like it, but if you look closely you'll notice it's not Arboria. Quite possibly custom font. Addition: fontsquirrel has some better suggestions (Generica bold), but still no perfect match. W3ird N3rd (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is the font relevant? It's certainly not in the US.--Prosfilaes (talk) 10:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Does that mean that if you design your own font, no matter how original and detailed, you could never copyright it in the U.S.? I guess Lego, Dell, P&G, Disney, Avaya, Kellogg's, CNN, Canon and many others are public domain in the U.S.? W3ird N3rd (talk) 22:18, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sry but intelecual properties are not only copyright but also trademark. And the logos you mentioned we have Category:Canon logos, Category:Lego logos, Category:Dell logos. You need more?--Sanandros (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- I had actually entered "lego" in the searchbox before typing that message. Just did it again and noticed it took me to Lego instead of all pages containing Lego. So I didn't see the logo. This surprises me. However, the Payconiq logo also has this odd character before the "Payconiq" and the shades in the background. But those will possibly be considered "too simple". So it would likely depend on the requirements for the TOO in Luxembourg. If Luxembourg TOO also says this is not copyrightable, the image can be here. If we simply don't know because we don't know Luxembourg law, I don't think it can be here. W3ird N3rd (talk) 01:58, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yes. Typefaces and calligraphy are not copyrightable in the US, and many logos are beneath the TOO in the US.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- I knew this was the case for Boeing, I was already surprised Subway was beneath TOO as well but I'm amazed Lego and Dell are beneath the TOO. I learn something every day. W3ird N3rd (talk) 01:58, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Here is written that the TOO (Schöpfungshöhe) is not as low as in GB but not so high as in D. So it's comparable to the TOO in Benelux States and in France.--Sanandros (talk) 22:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- This sounds pretty confusing because Luxembourg is part of the Benelux, so I'll assume you mean comparable to Belgium and The Netherlands (and France). So it's likely above the TOO. W3ird N3rd (talk) 23:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- No in the comment to the bill is written: "Der Begriff der Schöpfungshöhe wie er in diesem Gesetzesentwurf enthalten ist, ist derjenige, der in den Benelux und in Frankreich vorherrscht.".--Sanandros (talk) 20:43, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- For those not speaking fluent German, Google Translate: "The concept of the height of creation as contained in this bill is the one prevailing in the Benelux and in France.". Luxembourg is part of the Benelux, but this is just discussing words. TOO in The Netherlands is pretty low. From COM:TOO: "The demand that the product has to bear the personal mark of the maker means that there has to be a shape that is the result of creative human labor and thus creative choices, which therefore is a product of the human mind. In any case, excluded from this is everything that has a shape that is so trivial or banal, that one cannot show any creative labor behind it of any kind whatsoever." The custom font (I suspect it's not a font, they probably just based it on a font and customized it) and connected circles should be enough: this logo was made by a human being who had to think about it. W3ird N3rd (talk) 22:36, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- No in the comment to the bill is written: "Der Begriff der Schöpfungshöhe wie er in diesem Gesetzesentwurf enthalten ist, ist derjenige, der in den Benelux und in Frankreich vorherrscht.".--Sanandros (talk) 20:43, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- This sounds pretty confusing because Luxembourg is part of the Benelux, so I'll assume you mean comparable to Belgium and The Netherlands (and France). So it's likely above the TOO. W3ird N3rd (talk) 23:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Here is written that the TOO (Schöpfungshöhe) is not as low as in GB but not so high as in D. So it's comparable to the TOO in Benelux States and in France.--Sanandros (talk) 22:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- I knew this was the case for Boeing, I was already surprised Subway was beneath TOO as well but I'm amazed Lego and Dell are beneath the TOO. I learn something every day. W3ird N3rd (talk) 01:58, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sry but intelecual properties are not only copyright but also trademark. And the logos you mentioned we have Category:Canon logos, Category:Lego logos, Category:Dell logos. You need more?--Sanandros (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Does that mean that if you design your own font, no matter how original and detailed, you could never copyright it in the U.S.? I guess Lego, Dell, P&G, Disney, Avaya, Kellogg's, CNN, Canon and many others are public domain in the U.S.? W3ird N3rd (talk) 22:18, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is the font relevant? It's certainly not in the US.--Prosfilaes (talk) 10:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Prosfilaes: Payconiq was originally a financial app for Belgium. Their aim is to provide services in Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg. They have offices in all three countries. Their disclaimer states "Op deze site en op deze disclaimer is het Luxemburgs recht van toepassing.". ("Luxembourg law applies to this site and disclaimer") Commons:Threshold_of_originality does not list Luxembourg. In case some people didn't notice because of their display settings: the background has several shades of pink. WhatTheFont suggests https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typeotones/arboria/black/ for the font, which looks like it, but if you look closely you'll notice it's not Arboria. Quite possibly custom font. Addition: fontsquirrel has some better suggestions (Generica bold), but still no perfect match. W3ird N3rd (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Deleted: Unclear where this is below TOO, PRP. --Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 20:01, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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Reupload, but the previous version was larger and didn't have a transparent background if I remember correctly. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 02:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, TroublingFox125 just uploaded a new version. Now it's the same as the deleted one. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 11:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Deleted: by Ronhjones. Ruthven (msg) 17:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
