Commons:Deletion requests/File:Parvin Rowshan.jpg
I think the pic is from here this file and the first version is from here this file --Knochen ﱢﻝﱢ 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Disagree First of all, the original source is a magazine and all other website are using the photograph which was initially printed in the magazine. The online source of this photograph is also provided. Second, no matter where this file is taken from, since this photographs is created over 30 years ago (before 1979, after this year the name of Taj S.C. renamed to Esteghlal F.C.), and according to the the "Law for the Protection of Authors, Composers and Artists Rights (1970)" of Iran, "this work is now in the public domain in Iran, because according to the Law for the Protection of Authors, Composers and Artists Rights (1970) its term of copyright has expired" for the following reasons:
In the following cases images fall into public domain after 30 years from the date of publication or public presentation (Article 16):
• Photographic or cinematographic works.
Third, the modified version of the photograph (NOT the first version) which I personally edited using Picasa software to do saturating and adjusting color as well as balancing the light, etc, was initially uploaded to the commons.wikimedia.org. After few days, however, I decided to upload the original version of this photograph since the clubs emblems were not shown in the edited photograph. Lastly, it is more reasonable to ask the uploader for some information about the uploaded work and if and only if you did not find compelling reasons in the answer, then take an action to nominate for deletion. Thanks MSanta Talk 23:17, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete In order to invoke Article 16, you must prove that the image was published more than thirty years ago. While I agree that that is likely, it is not beyond a significant doubt, which is our standard for proof. In the absence of proof of publication, the rule is p.m.a 50, which cannot apply to an image from the 1970s. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:57, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- Disagree Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me)! The picture is clearly published in a magazine [1]. It's strictly forbidden to use the name of TAJ (meaning Crown: a symbol of monarchy and royalists) after the 1979 Revolution in Iran (the word of "TAJ" is printed on the blue jersey). Therefore, the picture is not published after February 11, 1979. MSanta Talk 22:11, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- You say "The picture is clearly published in a magazine". It is not clear to me. When images are copied from magazines, the halftone screen (from the offset process used in almost all magazine printing) creates a Moiré pattern with the scan which is completely obvious. I do not see that here, even at high magnification. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:54, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- You mean it has primarily been published online as a digital photograph, then? I'd say it's been printed in a magazine since there is a noise on the photograph as well as the traces of the visible folding lines on it. Moreover, after a search on the net, I found the modified version of this photograph on the BBC-Persian website. I highly doubt that BBC uses something which is under copy right protection. MSanta Talk 06:42, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: we have no source for an early publication. JuTa 12:41, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
