Commons:Deletion requests/File:Otto Stadie (SS-man).jpg
A photo of a German SS officer, most likely from the first half of the 1940ies, claimed to be both PD-Polish and PD-Old. I'm not sure why this is considered to be "PD-Polish". No author is given, so we do not know if he was a Pole, no date or place of publication are given, so we don't know when (if ever) this photo was first published in Poland, the person depicted is German, not Polish, and nothing is said about the place and date that photo was taken. It could have been Poland, Stadie was there, but it cold be elsewhere. And even if it were taken in Poland, that does not mean that "PD-Polish" does automatically apply.
As for the "PD-Old" claim: No author is named, so how can anyone claim that he is indeed dead for at least 70 years? If the photo was taken in the 1940ies, he could well have lived for many years after 1943.
So in essence, we do not have enough information to assume that this photo is either "PD-Polish" or "PD-Old". Because of this, it should be deleted per the precautionary principle. Rosenzweig τ 18:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- I totally understand the concept of precautionary measure and I'm not opposed to it. I'd like clarify, however, that this is a historical image from World War II of a Holocaust perpetrator active in Nazi occupied Poland (specifially, at Treblinka extermination camp in German-occupied Poland where up to a million Jews have perished). According to the Art. 3 of copyright law of March 29, 1926 of the Republic of Poland and Art. 2 of copyright law of July 10, 1952 of the People's Republic of Poland, all photographs published for the first time in Poland or simultaneously in Poland and abroad without a clear copyright notice before the law was changed on May 23, 1994 are assumed public domain in Poland. Therefore, no information (i.e. no clear copyright notice attached to it) ammounts to this photograph falling into the public domain category. Poeticbent talk 00:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- But we don't even know if this is a "Polish" photograph, I wrote quite lot about that above, and we know nothing about the time and place of first publication and if it was accompanied by any copyright notice or not. So we simply cannot know if any of these provisions actually apply here. --Rosenzweig τ 11:30, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- I totally understand the concept of precautionary measure and I'm not opposed to it. I'd like clarify, however, that this is a historical image from World War II of a Holocaust perpetrator active in Nazi occupied Poland (specifially, at Treblinka extermination camp in German-occupied Poland where up to a million Jews have perished). According to the Art. 3 of copyright law of March 29, 1926 of the Republic of Poland and Art. 2 of copyright law of July 10, 1952 of the People's Republic of Poland, all photographs published for the first time in Poland or simultaneously in Poland and abroad without a clear copyright notice before the law was changed on May 23, 1994 are assumed public domain in Poland. Therefore, no information (i.e. no clear copyright notice attached to it) ammounts to this photograph falling into the public domain category. Poeticbent talk 00:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: per nom. INeverCry 01:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)