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PD-ineligible maybe? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 23:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- COM:TOO#Italy looks like a yes. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Info note that I removed the speedy deletion tag as the file is now nominated for deletion. Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
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Delete I flew over [1] which apparently served as a basis to what is written in COM:TOO#Italy, however I'm not at all sure to draw the same conclusion, quite the opposite. Me I read "... all works that are a personal intellectual creation (...) should be considered as copyright works", it is true that industrial design is somewhat exempted for copyright protection, but from there to make the shortcut between industrial design and logos....I disagree. Industrial design can mean for example the design of a car, and that should fall under utility objects. I think we can even interpret the text at the exact opposite, " all intellectual creations are copyright works, included the utility objects as long as those utility object have an industrial design that met a sufficient threshold". This text describe IMO a very very low ToO, because in most countries industrial design, in the meaning utility objects, are usually exempted of copyright protection, however apparently in Italy this is not the case. Christian Ferrer (talk) 07:06, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Christian Ferrer: Tell me it ain't so. Goodbye, Category:Lamborghini automobiles.
Goodbye, Category:Ferrari automobiles. Goodbye, most of Category:Automotive design of Italy. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:16, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Believe me I'm not happy of that but when we try to understand a text we must really try to understand this text. Not to take the only three most positive words "threshold" "quite" "high", to get them out from the context, and to remix those words in a way that we want. That said I'm not an English native speaker and my understanding of the text may be wrong, as well as my understanding of what is an" industrial design" may also be wrong. But anyway I still think that a shortcut between "industrial design bless of quite high threshold" and "this is also the case for the logos" is an overinterpretation of what is written. I mean I'm pretty sure there is no common point between an "industrial design" and a "logo", therefore I can't see how we can make an analogy for the copyright protection (and therefore for the threshold of originality needed for the copyright protection) of those two distinct subjects. "all works that are a personal intellectual creation..." is applicable to the logos and that sentence don't talk about any threshold other than the one of to be a "personal intellectual creation", not even somewhat artistic. Christian Ferrer (talk) 07:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Christian Ferrer: Tell me it ain't so. Goodbye, Category:Lamborghini automobiles.
- I am a native speaker of Italian thus is pointless explaining to an Italian what the italian laws say using as ground a translated test (with questionable results). -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Kept: below threshold of originality. laws must be read in original language. SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
