Commons:Deletion requests/File:New building in Zhovti Vody.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
This is reportedly a new building but there is no COM:FOP in Ukraine or the former Soviet states. The architect must be dead for at least 70 years in this case before photos of the architect's work is copyright free. I think that Commons cannot keep this picture...but I ask the community to decide. I have no strong feelings either way. Leoboudv (talk) 19:56, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Delete. The architect(s) may live indefinitely, as it is actually a bunch of unrelated companies. That's the problem with modern construction: you just cannot dig deep enough to find a list of names. Even for those inside the business, tracing real authors is nearly impossible. An Irish firm produces original drawings based on a proposal by a Chinese construction company, then these drawings are reproduced by three Russian design firms (one by one), then they are shipped to Ukraine and again reproduced by Ukrainian firms. The surnames shown on final papers don't mean anything, except that these folks were signing off the permit paperwork. Dead end. And it's a fairly simple chain (one developer on one end, one government on another end). It gets even funnier with standardized plattenbau boxes like in this file - the paper trail may be twenty years old. NVO (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Keep Buildings are not sculptures.--Anatoliy (talk) 19:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)- Keep Sure that all architects of buildings in e.g. this photo are dead more than 70 years? --Smarty (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Architectural works are objects of copyright law in Ukraine (article 8). Only photos for private purposes allowed without architect permissions (article 25). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Comment: EugeneZelenko is saying the law in Ukraine means Commons cannot keep this image because it is subject to copyright. Buildings are copyrightable. Smarty, I am not talking about a panorama of buildings where 'De Minimis' can apply. I am talking about one photo only which is a major difference. --Leoboudv (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)- Keep The depicted buildings are far from original architectural works - nondescriptive buildings. They don't meet the threshold of originality. Lymantria (talk) 05:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Lymantria's argument's sound logical to me. The building shows little originality. So, I chose to withdraw this DR and remove the DR notice from the picture as the nominator. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Kept: Withdrawn by nominator. – Adrignola talk 19:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
