Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mohammed Dudin body (2).JPG

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File:Mohammed Dudin body (2).JPG

According to Commons:Photographs of identifiable people, consent is required for publishing this photo. No consent has been provided. USchick (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

The photo was not taken in a private place. The funeral was a public event in the streets of Dura. according to the policy page "the subject's consent is not usually needed for publishing a straightforward photograph of an identifiable individual taken in a public place". Another issue is that Muhammed Dudin is dead and therefore unable to give consent. The policy page states that "In most countries, these issues only affect images where the person is identifiable and still alive" No reason to assume the Palestinian territories are an exeption. The familly, however, wants these photos to be published. Azzam Talahmi (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

According to the country policy Commons:Country specific consent requirements a photo can be taken, but not published without consent. So even if you take the photo, you still need consent to publish it. USchick (talk) 05:14, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

1. Irrelevant to post-mortem photos (as mentioned in Commons:Photographs of identifiable people)
2. Nothing in the page about the Palestinian territories.

Please refer to the facts that the file is a Post-mortem photo taken in public event in territory where such publications are legal. יורם שורק (talk) 05:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Please link to something that says "such publications are legal" USchick (talk) 16:54, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

what is "such publication"? this is a photo of a dead body taken in public event. If you want to delete YOU have to give a valid reason (saying that the deceased has to give consent for his post-mortem photos publications is not an argument one can seriously answer). In any case if this photo is not OK then all other post-mortem photos should be nominated for deletion and this page is not the right place to discuss radical policy change. יורם שורק (talk) 19:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

"All other" post-mortem photos meet requirements, like being in the public domain. This photo was taken in a country that doesn't allow for freedom of panorama without consent. Therefore, it doesn't meet requirements, that's why it's nominated for deletion. USchick (talk) 19:55, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

"Freedom of panorama" deals with architecture or art. Dead human body is neither architecture nor art (I cannot explain to you what is architecture or art in the scope of this page - please read in Wikipedia the relevant articles). You nominated this photo for deletion therefore you need to find a reason for deletion. If you cannot find any rule in the Palestinian territories that is relevant to this photo please stop this. יורם שורק (talk) 20:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I hate to tell you this, but photography is art. USchick (talk) 22:20, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Photography is art and the artist who photographed this photo released it to wiki commons. please read again what I explained to you about "freedom of panorama". The "consent" issue is irrelevant for post-mortem photos. If you think there is a problem with the photos it is not enough to generate sentences with the terms "freedom of panorama" , "consent" and "public place" in random order. You need to refer to rule that forbid post-mortem photos taken in public event in the Palestinian territories. יורם שורק (talk) 04:10, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how many different ways I can say it. To publish a photo of a recognizable famous person, you need consent. The admins will look at policy and decide this case, not us. USchick (talk) 16:59, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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Kept: The person is diseased and according com:IDENT there are no concerns in most country's post mortum. The image has been taken during a public event and the person is famous. In some country's there are personal rights after the death of the subject but I don't think that is much of a concern since images of the boys are famous now. Also when I read this I can find no concerns. Natuur12 (talk) 12:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)