Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mensch aergere dich nicht.jpg

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File:Mensch_aergere_dich_nicht.jpg

It isn't clear from the summary whether Horst Frank is the author of the photo only or the author of the depicted object. ŠJů (talk) 12:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Horst Frank is the author of the photo only, because he is alive today and has a User page on de.wp, while the depicted object is "... a German board game (but not a German-style board game), by Joseph Friedrich Schmidt (1907/1908)." [1] Mutante (talk) 13:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Life dates of original author Joseph Friedrich Schmidt are 1871-1948, according to this source (pdf). If considered as a work of art, it would be protected until 2018 (1948 +70). Here are contact data of the company that produced the original form of the game, the Schmidt Spiele-Verlag. Somebody might ask them, 1) whether this is really their design (because there were many copycats) and, if yes, 2) whether they grant us permission.--Túrelio (talk) 13:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I think, Joseph Friedrich Schmidt has patented the game, but he may not be the author of every packing graphic. --ŠJů (talk) 14:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi! I photographed the Box a few years ago, so I am the author of the image. I am not the author of the Box itself. The shown gamebox is no longer in the trade, it is very old (1950th i guess). --Horst Frank (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

i wrote a mail with this link http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch_%C3%A4rgere_dich_nicht to Schmidtspiele here the Answer:

Sehr geehrter Herr ############,

vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail und den Hinweis. Zunächst interessiert es uns, 
mit wem wir es konkret zu tun haben. Sind Sie Wikipedia-Administrator?

Hinsichtlich des oberen Fotos der älteren "Mensch ärgere Dich nicht"-Ausgabe 
können wir die Abbildung in Wikipedia erlauben. Das Bild rechts "Spielfeld für 
vier Personen" stammt allem Anschein nicht von einem originalen "Mensch ärgere 
Dich nicht"-Spiel. Diese Spielplan-Abbildung empfehlen wir im Zusammenhang mit 
dem Original-Spiel zu löschen. Stattdessen fügen wir Ihnen die Datei des 
aktuellen Spielplans bei und erlauben hiermit die Abbildung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Berlin
########

the google translation:

 Dear Mr. ############,

 Thank you for your e-mail and the notice. First it interested us,
 with whom we actually have to do. Are you a Wikipedia administrator?

 Regarding the top photos of the older "man you are not annoyed" output
 we can figure in Wikipedia allow. The picture on the right "pitch for
 four people "apparently comes not from an original" Man annoyed
 Do not "game. This schedule, we recommend imaging in connection with
 the original game to delete. Instead, we add you to the file
 current game plan and hereby allow the picture.

 With kind regards from Berlin
 ########

they send me two pdf-files with the original board. who can i send the pdfs to convert to png? --213.39.193.140 08:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

the Schmidt Spiele GmbH suggest that this image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mensch_%C3%A4rger_dich_nicht_006.jpg is not an original Board. They send me images of the original board. could someone help me to find the right license for this? --Horst Frank (talk) 09:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to ask Schmidt Spiele GmbH for a specific license, if they release it for Wikipedia only, it is not enough. You can use this email template and ask them to answer to OTRS directly. –Tryphon^☂ 09:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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Deleted. Derivative work, no permission. –Tryphon^☂ 09:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)