Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maximilien Roberti.jpg

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File:Maximilien Roberti.jpg

wrong date, probably wrong source and author - copyright violation? Xocolatl (talk) 10:01, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

•  Keep Fixed errors, "PD-EU-no author disclosure". Tineye has not found an attribution for a creator. --RAN (talk) 18:08, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

  RAN argued here above for keeping this file of a drawing or painting or so with reference to the "PD-EU-no author disclosure" template. Here he changed the {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} template into the {{PD-EU-no author disclosure}}. According to COM:EVIDENCE, which is is considered to be an official policy on Wikimedia Commons, (background color for highlighting added):

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In all cases, the burden of proof lies on the uploader or other person arguing for the file to be retained to demonstrate that as far as can reasonably be determined: • the file is in the public domain or is properly licensed, and • that any required consent has been obtained.

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The PD-EU-no author disclosure can only be used if the image was published before 1953 and at that time it was anonymously published. The burden of proof for that template lies on the person who added that template while arguing for the file to be retained.

Take the discussion here were RAN wrote "A 1939 image is PD-EU, Tineye could not find anyone making an active copyright claim." So he starts with a false claim. RAN seems to be convinced that every drawing, photo, painting, sketch or so that was made in the 1930's or 1940's in a country that is now part of EU were published before 1953 unless it shows up in TinEye. And not only that, all of these images that don't show up in TinEye were anonymously published before 1953. If I look through some of our old family albums of that time, I'm pretty sure (almost) none of them were published before 1953 and also (almost) none of them would show up in TinEye. For an image that looks to be older than 70 years, not showing up in TinEye doesn't automatically mean published before 1953! RAN, based on what source do you claim this pre 1953 publication? - Robotje (talk) 10:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

• It is your same yellow highlighted argument rejected here and here and here. If you want a valid argument for deletion, use resources to show that you found a named creator, not the theoretical possibility, that a named creator may exist. --RAN (talk) 14:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

 Delete Portrait painting of a non-notable person screams out of scope to me. —holly {chat} 00:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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Deleted: per nomination and discussion. Possibly an unpublished painting which might be in PD, but is not certain. I agree however with Holly this is an unnotable person. --Ellywa (talk) 20:44, 4 December 2023 (UTC)