Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kira Kosarin dehors Ritz PDB.png

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File:Kira Kosarin dehors Ritz PDB.png

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Quality of image including the swipe on bottom 2600:100C:A218:92ED:3883:FBAE:32AC:286 05:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's because you went through and removed the image from a bunch of different language Wikipedias. One project is enough to be automatically within scope. Not just that, but looking at the histories of the various Wikipedia pages where this image was in use, it seems as though this image was added independently by different editors in good faith. That speaks to the within-scope character of the image, regardless of whether it is in use now or not (in case you decide to remove it from the Indonesian Wikipedia too). IronGargoyle (talk) 21:14, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep COM:INUSE trumps any arguments on quality grounds. Removing usage of the image from other projects to circumvent COM:INUSE is not a valid tactic. From Hill To Shore (talk) 17:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not sure I get the argument. Does COM:INUSE apply to any media that has once been used on another project? Webfil (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The file is COM:INUSE as it is being used on the Indonesian Wikipedia. A derivative work is also in use on the English Wikipedia, and we have to retain the original to preserve the edit history and licence history of the derivative. Commons editors do not have the right to make judgements about what other projects find to be an acceptable quality. If another project is using the file then that is sufficient. Quite often we see editors try to "win" a deletion discussion by removing usage of a file from other projects in a way to circumvent the COM:INUSE argument. A user making a unilateral decision to remove a file because they have a personal dislike of it is not a valid tactic. Such users should leave it to the local editors of each project to decide for themselves. IronGargoyle above suggests you have been removing this file from other projects (though I couldn't spot the relevant edits myself). I don't know (and don't care) about your motivations for doing so but I am repeating here that it is not an appropriate option to invalidate the COM:INUSE argument. As IronGargoyle points out, if multiple editors across multiple projects thought that this was good enough for use, that is enough to say that the file is educationally useful, regardless of arguments from others that it is of too poor quality to be educationally useful. From Hill To Shore (talk) 19:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @From Hill To Shore : Thank you for clarifying that. I happen to be active on Wikipedia too, and I have an history of cross-wiki editing ― mostly through WPWP events, but outside that too. WP has language-specific quality requirements for the use of image; some have guidelines such as the English Wikipedia, others have policies such as the French Wikipedia, other have equivocal criteria in help pages (such as the need for "representativity" ― in other words, the chosen image has to represent the recognizable essence of a figurative subject, not a blurry blob in an unrevealing context). What's more, the uploader has been blocked indefinitely on that base on WP:FR.
    In the light of the different Wikipedias' pillars, rules and policies, the choice for a header image representing the singer-actress in performance with a somewhat sharp photo taken with a reflex camera with manual control of aperture and speed, rather than a screenshot of a badly framed, glared, overexposed photo taken on the fly with a low-end phone outside a bar seems largely justified (and, I must say, remains, to this day unchallenged except for here).
    All in all, I don't see why I have to go that deep into explanations to justify my acts on other wikis. I'm generally not the one to be offended by a failure to observe COM:AGF and COM:NOTWP, but I have to say this has been starting to tickle a bit. Webfil (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As you don't see the need to justify your acts, so too have I said that I don't care about your acts and motivations. Your business is your business. You asked me specifically to explain the impact of COM:INUSE and the removal of the image from other projects, so I did so. If you have no further questions, I suggest we move on. From Hill To Shore (talk) 20:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On unchallenged justification, en:Talk:Kira Kosarin#Change of lead image had a user in 2022 insisting it should be the infobox photo (which it still is) because it was the only photo on Commons to show the subject's "complete face", even though she was squinting into the sun. Belbury (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Obviously fine and in scope. Stripes at the bottom are easily cropped...as Belbury has already done, producing a derivative version in use at enwiki. — Rhododendrites talk |  15:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No endorsement intended of the photo's use on enwiki, in that, a user was just insisting on restoring the swipe-bar version as the infobox photo. Belbury (talk) 16:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: in use and source of cropped version which is also in use. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 02:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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