Commons:Deletion requests/File:John Dee's -Eyes Only- signature.svg
The ‘signature’ is not true, and is based on a hoax by a writer called Richard Deacon, aka Donald McCormick. SchroCat (talk) 07:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Speedy keep COM:INUSE in many articles. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- So you want to perpetrate the hoax across WP despite it being untrue? Wow... - SchroCat (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- What an irritating comment! This isn't the site for arguments over accuracy of files in use, and I neither know nor care whether it's his signature. Read COM:NPOV, and argue somewhere else. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t care if you are irritated by it or not: if you think WP should assist in peddling false information that is part of a hoax simply so you can adhere to a rule, that has to be one of the most bureaucratically narrow-minded and unthinking stances I’ve seen in a long while. - SchroCat (talk) 06:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is not Wikipedia. I have no opinion about what people should do at Wikipedia. Read the links I gave you. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Don't patronise me, sunshine, I'm well aware it's not Wikipedia, and it makes zero difference to what I have written and why I have written it (and I was aware of the guideline before you posted). COM:INUSE does not stand in this matter as the file, being a hoax, cannot "be useful for an educational purpose" (in other words, it fails COM:EDUSE entirely). I'm sorry you are unable to undertake any thought without reference to "the rulez", and I'm truly sorry that common sense is an anathema to you, but given the file breaches your own rules, I'd be happy if you stepped away and let others chip in now. - SchroCat (talk) 08:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Commons is not going to delete an image that is used in loads of articles in other Wikis. Your abusive remarks will be reported. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine: you are stepping away, which is a delight. Commons:Be flexible is a far more appropriate concept then inflexibly and knowingly perpetrating a hoax. And if you don't like people being blunt (not uncivil, but blunt), then don't post passive aggressive comments like "What an irritating comment!" and don't be patronising: these are only ever going to wind people up. - SchroCat (talk) 10:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Mentioned at User:SchroCat (permalink - Jmabel ! talk 20:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Keep It is correct to label a hoax as a hoax, and if the evidence of a hoax is clear I'd be fine with renaming the file so that even the title indicates it's a hoax. However, it is absolutely not Commons' job to override decisions made by the individual Wikipedias. One of our roles is simply to be a place where Wikipedias (and other sister projects) can store and share files. While not an absolutely formal agreement, it's basically a social contract that the only reason we ever will delete a file that is legitimately in use on one of these other projects is if it has copyright issues. - Jmabel ! talk 20:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete This is not only a hoax, it's a purely local WM hoax and not even a notable hoax outside the project. I can see no INUSE instances here where this modern logotype should be anywhere near them. Especially not anything relating to John Dee. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:57, 6 January 2024 (UTC)- Delete Per Andy. INUSE doesn't apply here. Guido den Broeder (talk) 03:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per COM:INUSE. Aside "article-use" in Wikipedias (that should be avoided, as it's an hoax), it may be used outside mainspace (for example, it's used in a James Bond infobox from id.wikipedia). File can be renamed, or even "des-categorised" from Category:John Dee, of course, if deemed necessary. Strakhov (talk) 21:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently all uses are related to James Bond and not to John Dee. I removed this only one. Rename the file, remove it from Category:John Dee, and move on. Strakhov (talk) 21:14, 7 January 2024 (UTC)- Keep per COM:INUSE.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Kept: COM:INUSE. --IronGargoyle (talk) 15:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
