Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jaroljmek Edmund.jpg

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File:Jaroljmek Edmund.jpg

Urheberrecht fraglich Jaster0401 (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Das finde ich ja jetzt mal eine mutige und ehrenwerte Aktion, das selber hier zur Diskussion zu stellen! Respekt!

Ich fürchte leider, nach der Antwort auf meine Frage, die ich hier bekommen habe, ist das Bild leider tatsächlich zur Löschung verurteilt. Gruß, --217.239.1.129 23:27, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

•  Keep "PD-EU-no author disclosure" is the correct license. --RAN (talk) 04:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello RAN, please help me get this right: This would mean the information I got at the village pump ("unpublished photos by unknown authors are still protected by copyright up 120 years after creation") was either incorrect or does not apply in this case? --217.239.5.220 10:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

• That only applies to unpublished images that originate in the United States. This image comes from the EU and the USA respects their rules for when an image becomes public domain, except images that enter the public domain after 1996 (the URAA loophole). An image is made public (published in legal terms) when it moves from the photographer to the person being photographed. Some images remain with the photographer, for instance the Library of Congress in the United States acquires images from photo studios as they permanently close and has the original glass negatives, most of them never seen by the public. --RAN (talk) 16:51, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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Deleted: Given the general lack of information about this photo (who took it where and when? And was it really published at some point or not?), we don't even know if this image is really "anonymous" (which is not the same as "we don't know"), so there is no way of knowing if any license tag based on anonymous publication does really apply. The definition of "publication" offered above, btw, may be true for some older US photographs, but even for more recent (post 1977) US images it was abolished in favor of another definition, and I don't think you can apply it to images from Austria, Hungary or other EU countries. We do have the license tag {{PD-old-assumed}} for images that were created at least 120 years ago, but that is obviously not the case here. Assuming the 1918 date given is correct, the file can be restored with PD-old-assumed in 2039. --Rosenzweig τ 17:48, 10 November 2022 (UTC)