Commons:Deletion requests/File:JAL516 wreckage from Xiaohongshu.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Second time this has been tagged so I’ll explain everything in here in full. Give me a few minutes. S5A-0043Talk 10:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- A few days ago I contacted the account and asked whether I can upload the image to Commons. I explained that the image needs to be free in that everyone else can reuse it as well, and asked whether they can give permission, or under a free license.
- The account holder replied me back saying that I can reuse so long as they are attributed.
- I thanked them, and asked them to put a statement into the comments section (because Xiaohongshu doesn’t allow editing posts), so that admins can check, or that they put a screenshot of the convo. He replied “OK”.
- An initial comment is posted something similar in Chinese to “如果有任何媒体要使用的话，请注明来源即可使用。” which translates roughly to “If any media organizations want to use this picture, please state the source.” This was deleted a few minutes later and replaced by a screenshot of the convo which was my idea, and my Xiaohongshu account (which has the same username as I’m using here) was pinged and notified of this.
- I think a Chinese reader can easily verify that at the very least the screenshot was there. S5A-0043Talk 10:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- CC @Denniss who tagged the permission pending the first time and @Araisyohei who tagged the CSD template after. S5A-0043Talk 10:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete Wikimedia Commons requires that the image and license be clearly identified as a set. However, we could not find any comments or screenshots where the license was clarified, such as CC-BY-4.0, so we thought it should be removed. I think it would be OK if you re-upload the image with the license clarified according to the procedure in Commons:Volunteer_Response_Team/zh.--Araisyohei (talk) 10:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Question: Attribution only license is not accepted? S5A-0043Talk 10:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Using only explicitly stated templates is not discouraged, although it is not disallowed. Also, in such cases, the author's permission cannot be uploaded unless it is very clearly and explicitly stated. When it is explicitly stated that the material "may be used in any medium", it must be clear whether, for example, press, military or commercial use is included in the permitted media. The CC-BY licence clearly states this in an easy-to-understand manner. Incidentally, can Ping be viewed without logging in to this service? --Araisyohei (talk) 10:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete There's no other choice unless we get a permission via OTRS. The permission and licensing situation is completely unclear now. Plus we already have a replacement image with this file --Denniss (talk) 11:41, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Either way this file’s already been substituted & I’m kind of tired from this so I don’t have the intention to fight until the end. I just wanna clear things up so I don’t land myself (or my @S5A-0043 ByOthers account for that matter) a block. S5A-0043Talk 12:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: the right way to provide permission is via COM:VRT. We can undelete the image if ever such permission has been received. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 02:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
