Commons:Deletion requests/File:Forer.jpg
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This is actually a photo of P.T. Barnum, we have a better version of this same photo here: File:Phineas Taylor Barnum.jpg. Bertram Forer is a psychologist known for the Forer effect, also called the Barnum effect - I think someone got confused. GRuban (talk) 01:24, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Before this is closed, I'd like to explain the COM:HOAX element here. According to en:wiki Barnum effect, "The Barnum effect, also called the Forer effect, is a common psychological phenomenon whereby individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them but that are, in fact, vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some paranormal beliefs and practices, such as astrology, fortune telling, graphology, aura reading, and some types of personality tests." The initial paper is Forer, B.R. (1949). "The fallacy of personal validation: A classroom demonstration of gullibility" https://web.archive.org/web/20160305220420/http://apsychoserver.psych.arizona.edu/JJBAReprints/PSYC621/Forer_The%20fallacy%20of%20personal%20validation_1949.pdf (PDF). Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology. American Psychological Association. 44 (1): 118–123.
- Google searching (https://www.google.com/search?q=Bertram+R.+Forer&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS767US767&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiV4vXT2-bXAhWH6CYKHZNEDBwQ_AUICigB&biw=1228&bih=1033) results in piles of pictures of Barnum leading to the suggestion that this isn't the first time or first use of these images to represent Forer. And with that tie, there's no way this is a late 20th Century image. Someone is attempting to make a subtle joke at the expense of Wikipedia and if you look up Mr. Forer on Google, it's working. Many of the images of "Forer" are actually Barnum. I wanted to document this for any future disagreements about Barnum pictures. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:25, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Delete: although the sepia tone makes it arguably different from the larger version, the spurious “own work“ claim masks the provenance, making it effectively unsourced. WIthout even getting into the hoax aspect …—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:53, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination and Odyesseus1479. Green Giant (talk) 22:14, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
